Thread: Connecticut school shooting: Reports say more than 20 dead

Oh that Sheriff Joe...

An Arizona sheriff has proposed placing an armed volunteer posse at many Phoenix-area schools, in response to the deadly school shooting in Connecticut.
Earlier in the week, Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne proposed firearms training for one educator in every school in the state. Following that lead, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio said Thursday he wants to start dispatching volunteer patrols to schools within a week, according to MyFoxPhoenix.com.
The report emphasized that the plan calls for armed posse members around the perimeters of schools, not inside them. It will focus on about 50 schools within Maricopa County.
Sheriff Arpaio says members of the volunteer posse provide their own equipment and don’t receive a salary, so there’s no cost to taxpayers. But, he says, the volunteers have the experience to handle the job.
"The posse has the same training regarding guns as our regular deputy sheriffs, over 100 hours of training, plus refresher courses," he said. "We should never have a defeatist attitude. We look to the future and take whatever precautions we can do. I don't just want to talk, I like action.”
Arpaio has used similar volunteer groups to patrol malls over the holidays. Posse members arrested 31 people this year, and the sheriff thinks their presence may deter criminal activity.
When MyFoxPhoenix.com tried to get reaction from school officials, a spokesperson for Arizona Superintendent John Huppenthal said they are looking at a number of proposals and released this statement: "In addition to potentially adopting one of these approaches, we would want to ensure all schools and districts complete the necessary intensive threat assessment and violence prevention training that create a comprehensive solution to create the safest possible environment for our students."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/28...#ixzz2GSyfNNwt

There is nothing that could POSSIBLY go wrong with this idea....

Something interesting from vigilantcitizen.com.

Here's a link to the full article: Thought of the Month (01/13): Mass Shootings and Mass Media - The Vigilant Citizen - The Vigilant Citizen


Synchronicities

Like all events that bear a somewhat ritualistic aspect, the Sandy Hook shooting is surrounded by strange synchronicities. For instance, several articles across the web mention that the words “Sandy Hook” are seen on a map during the movie The Dark Knight Rises. In the movie, the Sandy Hook island holds the Gotham stadium that super-villain Bane demolishes.

An area named “Sandy Hook” tagged as a “strike zone” during The Dark Knight Rises.

A strange fact is that a promo kit sent out to influential media industry individuals contained two items: A t-shirt and the map of Gotham City as seen in the movie.
The promo kit contained a t-shirt featuring Bane and the words “Fire Rises” along with a map of Gotham City including an island named Sandy Hook. Screen capture taken from FirstShowing.net.

On the map, we can clearly read that “Sandy Hook” is a “strike zone”.

That is certainly a strange connection between the Aurora shootings (which occurred during the premier of The Dark Knight Rises) and the Sandy Hook shootings. Is this all coincidence? Are the same people behind both attacks? Was this all preplanned? Are these “coincidences” actually synchronicities as defined by Carl Jung, which appear to materialize in order to highlight a layer of truth?
The Sandy Hook shooting also has an odd relationship to the movie The Hunger Games. As stated in the article “The Hunger Games”: A Glimpse at the Future?, the movie basically portrays the ritual killing of young people taken from the masses in order to amuse and to appease the elite. Strange fact: the author of the story, Suzanne Collins, resides in Newtown, Connecticut.

Originally Posted by TheBaschnagelnator

Something interesting from vigilantcitizen.com.

That is certainly a strange connection between the Aurora shootings (which occurred during the premier of The Dark Knight Rises) and the Sandy Hook shootings. Is this all coincidence? Are the same people behind both attacks? Was this all preplanned? Are these “coincidences” actually synchronicities as defined by Carl Jung, which appear to materialize in order to highlight a layer of truth?
The Sandy Hook shooting also has an odd relationship to the movie The Hunger Games. As stated in the article “The Hunger Games”: A Glimpse at the Future?, the movie basically portrays the ritual killing of young people taken from the masses in order to amuse and to appease the elite. Strange fact: the author of the story, Suzanne Collins, resides in Newtown, Connecticut.

Yes, a coincidence. Not even a surprising one at that. "Sandy Hook" is not only the name of the school, its also a well known Peninsula and Bay in NJ:

Sandy Hook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Seeing as how Gotham is based off of NYC, its not surprising that it would have an island that shares the name with an area of NJ that is right off of NYC, South of Manhattan and Staten Island. And seeing as how the orginal Dutch settlers were the ones that named the area Sandy Hook, one could guess that the school named themselves after this historic area.

Originally Posted by Jimmors

Yes, a coincidence. Not even a surprising one at that. "Sandy Hook" is not only the name of the school, its also a well known Peninsula and Bay in NJ:

Sandy Hook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Seeing as how Gotham is based off of NYC, its not surprising that it would have an island that shares the name with an area of NJ that is right off of NYC, South of Manhattan and Staten Island. And seeing as how the orginal Dutch settlers were the ones that named the area Sandy Hook, one could guess that the school named themselves after this historic area.

I see the logic behind what you're saying, and it seems plausible. But from day one, I've had this strange vibe that some shady crap is going on.

Originally Posted by deuvl

An amazing job you've done. Looks like the signs were all there. I'm a believer in fatalism and that events occur because they have to whether good or bad, intentional or not.

Well, theres three groups of people. One that insists on staying asleep in denial. One that knows what we're dealing with, but is having too much fun indulging in temporal pleasures. And one that understands that we're dealing with some devils in very high places.

Originally Posted by TheBaschnagelnator

I see the logic behind what you're saying, and it seems plausible. But from day one, I've had this strange vibe that some shady crap is going on.

Plausible? Like inferring that Chris Nolan had some kind of insight into the Newtown shooting simply because part of a map in his movie lists "Sandy Hook?" Like that is MORE plausible?

As far as the Emile Parker thing goes...ive seen this claim before and it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out: Her sister is wearing her dress. Yeah yeah i know, its not as exciting a theory as "OMG SHES NOT ACTUALLY DEAD BECAUSE SHE'S THERE WITH THE PRESIDENT!!," but its way more "plausible" to believe that one of her sisters is wearing her dress (anyone who has kids, especially kids same sex and similar age, know that they share clothes).

Originally Posted by TheBaschnagelnator

Well, theres three groups of people. One that insists on staying asleep in denial. One that knows what we're dealing with, but is having too much fun indulging in temporal pleasures. And one that understands that we're dealing with some devils in very high places.

Ah yes, just because some people exercise COMMON SENSE and apply that to information given to them, makes them "asleep in denial." Heard that before too...in fact been down this road many times in the past over the 9/11 conspiracies.

And this is proving to be quite similar in many regards...a tragedy happens, confusion and disbelief is the result since its difficult to process said tragedy, so we naturally want an explanation. We want to know why these things happen. So then you end up with "internet detectives" who gather news reports, pictures and interviews (all of which online mind you), that were done by the media, and they begin to try and discover inconsistencies, coincidence and conspiracy.

Dont get me wrong, im naturally a skeptic, and a healthy does of skepticism and willingness to question everything is good. However, this is NOT a case of skepticism, because Conspiracy Theorists have their OWN agenda, their own commentary on what THEY think happened, and anything that "debunks" or calls into question THEIR theories is systematically dismissed. Thats not what skeptics do. Skeptics question everything, so if a TRUE skeptic doubts media story of what happened and then are presented with videos/pictures like you presented, their FIRST inclination is to be skeptical of THAT as well.

But, its easier to play Devil's Advocate and try to follow the logic of what is more "plausible," so lets try that out:

Lets say that it never happened, and it was all some kind of government fabrication/cover-up, what have you. As a skeptic, these questions would pop into mind:

1.What is the possible reason for including the name of the school in a movie that was obviously going to be a blockbuster seen by millions?
2.If Emile Parker wasnt killed, then why would they include her taking a picture with the president, a picture they know would have been seen by millions of people due to the fact it includes our President as well as family of Newtown victims?
3.And if it was her in that picture, WHY have her wear the SAME dress as in a picture previously released to the media?
4.Who is supposed to be benefiting from this supposed cover-up/fabrication? It sure isnt the president, it happened AFTER the election, and it has only galvanized the pro-gun people against both him AND the government.
5.The victims are children. Why would anyone base a conspiracy on the ability of CHILDREN to keep their mouths shut and not say anything?

Yes, i get the appeal of playing internet detective and discovering "evidence" of a plot more sinister then what actually happened. We ultimately are all small cogs in a very big machine, so things like this give us an excuse to believe that we are capable of understanding how the machine works, that we are able to see through the fog of what we are shown and see the so called "truth," the man behind the curtain so to speak. Unfortunately, when you try to apply logic and common sense to such narratives, at best...they simply fall apart because they do not make much sense at all, and at worse, it is an insult to the families of these tragedies.

If you notice in the top picture, 2 of the 3 sisters are wearing the SAME dress, so its not a stretch to assume that either all 3 of them have this dress, or the sister is wearing Emilie's dress in the second picture.

Also, when it comes to the hair...thats another important thing to look at it: Conspiracy theorists claim the Part in her hair is the same as in the first photo, and that her sisters have different Parts.

-First of all, even if this were true...you can still CHANGE the part in your hair.
-Secondly, either of the images could be reversed (flipped vertically)...a skeptic would wonder about that possibility, instead of assuming both pictures are 100% correct in their presentation, simply because it adds to their conspiracy theory.
-Third...the top picture does not show the "Part" of the two sister's hair, what you are seeing is the BANGS (parts are on top of the head, not the forehead).
-And lastly, as a TRUE skeptic, my next question would be to wonder about "Emilie's" curly hair in the second picture. The first pic establishes that she had very straight hair, and yet in the second picture, "Emilie" appears to have curls in her hair, not unlike....HER SISTER (from the first picture).