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    Rookie OL Webb getting his chance

    Rookie OL Webb getting his chance

    LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- The continued inactivity of starting left tackle Chris Williams (hamstring) could lead to added snaps for rookie swing tackle J’Marcus Webb, who saw his first NFL action Monday night against the Packers, when he rotated at right tackle with veteran Kevin Shaffer.

    Shaffer said the club’s move to insert Webb into the lineup wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment decision. In fact, it was part of the club’s plan heading into the contest.

    Starting right tackle Frank Omiyale is currently filling in for Williams on the left side, while Shaffer is running with the starters at right tackle, with Webb playing the swing role.

    “They wanted to get him a little bit of playing time,” Shaffer said. “So they rotated us a little bit. There were kind of set drives [on] who was gonna go [when]. I think we handled it pretty well.”

    Bears general manager Jerry Angelo obviously felt the same way.
    Although Webb played sparingly against the Packers, the Angelo saw enough of the rookie in live action to give him high praise. Described prior to the NFL draft as a potential diamond in the rough because of his prototypical size (6-7, 328 pounds), athleticism and nasty demeanor, Webb fell down the board because some scouts said the tackle lacked maturity and possessed questionable work ethic.

    So far though, Webb seems to be proving those skeptical scouts wrong. Prior to training camp though, Tice did mention that Webb needs to become accustomed to consistently doing “what it takes to compete at the NFL level.”

    “The sky’s the limit with him,” Angelo told the club’s official Web site. “J’Marcus has got tremendous potential. I think coach [Mike] Tice getting him in the game Monday night, and getthing his feet wet was a great thing for him. It will be for us as well. Even when he makes a mistake, his size and athleticism enable him to recover and still get the job done. Hopefully, he’s got a passion for this game and a hunger to be great. If he does, he’s going to be a very good player for us.”

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    Shaffer said the club’s move to insert Webb into the lineup wasn’t a spur-of-the-moment decision. In fact, it was part of the club’s plan heading into the contest.

    Starting right tackle Frank Omiyale is currently filling in for Williams on the left side, while Shaffer is running with the starters at right tackle, with Webb playing the swing role.

    “They wanted to get him a little bit of playing time,” Shaffer said. “So they rotated us a little bit. There were kind of set drives [on] who was gonna go [when]. I think we handled it pretty well.”
    Class move by Shaffer, and realizing its TEAM, and not minding the rotation. Like the strategy to find out in case of an injury and for long term , to get webb's feet wet and get plays- many complain when we 'red shirt" guys, so woud say this is a welcome change for them

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    The little bit I saw of him he looked okay, the guy has arms that are ridiculously long. One play he is beat by Clay Matthews and simply ides him by with the long arms.

    If he could develop into a solid back up or more that would be huge.

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    Seems when he's bull rushed he was handling himself pretty well, but when it comes to moving side-to-side he was relying on those long arms that windycity talked about. I'm not sold on Shaffer at RT ... so if a Shaffer & Webb make one decent player at that position I'm all for it until Williams returns.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    The little bit I saw of him he looked okay, the guy has arms that are ridiculously long. One play he is beat by Clay Matthews and simply ides him by with the long arms.

    If he could develop into a solid back up or more that would be huge.
    He's a rook, and coming out of low competition, having tice to coach him up huge, you can't teach his size, but can teach him technique and get him used to NFL speed, like that going to use him sparingly and develop him slowly

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    Quote Originally Posted by draw2anderson35 View Post
    Seems when he's bull rushed he was handling himself pretty well, but when it comes to moving side-to-side he was relying on those long arms that windycity talked about. I'm not sold on Shaffer at RT ... so if a Shaffer & Webb make one decent player at that position I'm all for it until Williams returns.
    your post got me thinking.. And not saying this is what is happening on bears, but in an era of a "hard salary cap"- where you can't afford top players at all positions and all 32 teams need to "compromise", and have weakness because can't afford superstars at each position. It may not be that bad a strategy, to like having 2 rb's now most teams going to- that on positions you don't have a Superstar, to maybe even have 2 players 'share" a position at a much lower cap numbers, that are maybe good at on thing ( like pass blocking or playing big WR's), but are bad at another( run blocking or small quick wr's), that keep them from being a top player at their position, but when combined with another you can have an effective rotation depending on the team's playing and their scheme's and tendancies.

    Where a top end player at any poistion is now $7 mill-$15 mill a year depending on the position, you can get 2 lesser players for prob $4-5 mill total for the position, and in addition have more depth for injury.So in this era of a hard cap, can see the Merits from a fiscal standpoint of doing this for 1-2 position to help stay under Cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    your post got me thinking.. And not saying this is what is happening on bears, but in an era of a "hard salary cap"- where you can't afford top players at all positions and all 32 teams need to "compromise", and have weakness because can't afford superstars at each position. It may not be that bad a strategy, to like having 2 rb's now most teams going to- that on positions you don't have a Superstar, to maybe even have 2 players 'share" a position at a much lower cap numbers, that are maybe good at on thing ( like pass blocking or playing big WR's), but are bad at another( run blocking or small quick wr's), that keep them from being a top player at their position, but when combined with another you can have an effective rotation depending on the team's playing and their scheme's and tendancies.

    Where a top end player at any poistion is now $7 mill-$15 mill a year depending on the position, you can get 2 lesser players for prob $4-5 mill total for the position, and in addition have more depth for injury.So in this era of a hard cap, can see the Merits from a fiscal standpoint of doing this for 1-2 position to help stay under Cap.
    if you use that strategy teams will know your hand you are playing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    if you use that strategy teams will know your hand you are playing...
    Thought of that also,but no different than a "nickle" package on "D", a shot gun on "O" or bringing out a 4 wr get with no rb... and esp on Cb's more to do with personal, than plays

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    If I am reading into this right you want to rotate OLmen?

    This does not really work for the OL as the group needs continuity and to be on the field against their opponent. It is almost unique to football because of how important it is to be together.

    I would think long and hard about being strategic before the game and against an elite pass rushing team starting Shaffer and when we play the Bills, Panthers starting Webb.

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