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    As far as bear's history any fan would know the Bears are not known for their QB's. Bears have been a strong defense with RB's that would leave most eating dirt, but they had the o-line to support the run. But times have changed
    yes they have, and why we also are changing and got a top QB, the bears ahve noticed : )

    Our D is strong, but still running an old Tampa 2 scheme.,, Even the D hates it
    huh? never heard the "D" saying they hate it.. posters.. yes!.. but then again some posters even hate when the bears are 3-0 so take that with a grain of salt.

    All 32 teams play cover-2.. and guess what "D" the Giants were playing on sunday under fewell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    but then again some posters even hate when the bears are 3-0 so take that with a grain of salt.
    Yes, because heaven forbid people actually watch the Bears and see shit they dont like, even in a win...such as the OL, which becomes a cause of concern and leads to games (and losses) like Sunday Night. So take THAT with your grain of salt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmors View Post
    Yes, because heaven forbid people actually watch the Bears and see shit they dont like, even in a win...such as the OL, which becomes a cause of concern and leads to games (and losses) like Sunday Night. So take THAT with your grain of salt.
    A vast chasm exists between 'concern" on the oline- even when winning and bashing everything even when bears win and claiming the bears stll stink and will only win 3 games all year..as some have done the last week( and not directed at you jimmors)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    A vast chasm exists between 'concern" on the oline- even when winning and bashing everything even when bears win and claiming the bears stll stink and will only win 3 games all year..as some have done the last week( and not directed at you jimmors)
    I know its not directed at me. But i highly doubt anyone said we would only win 3 games all year after we were 3-0. I could be wrong, but i dont recall seeing anyone make that statement.

    And im just explaining why some people "hate the Bears" (as you put it), after being 3-0. Its not hate, its concern...and i have voiced my opinion as such..that yes, the Bears were 3-0, and did better then most people expected, but the margins of victory were razor thin, they havent won a game by more then a touchdown, and all 3 couldve easily ended up losses. You, being the eternal optimist, took that as a sign of dominance that validates your opinion about the team being "good," whereas others (such as myself), noticed that things needed to change because the Bears could not continue to play like that and win games in a 16 game season. And the Giants took the rug out from under our feet and exposed and mutilated our biggest weakness...OL. And its a weakness that cant be easily fixed mid season like most others can. You can only work with the talent you have (or can acquire), and if the talent is THAT BAD, then all the shuffling, all the practice, all the film study in the world wont help out much.

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    You, being the eternal optimist, took that as a sign of dominance that validates your opinion about the team being "good,"
    nope, but thanks for putting words in mouth..lol

    I 'thought" the bears would go 11-5 this year9 and right now on course for that), so expected some losses and sure not "dominating", and while took much crap here about how 'delusional homer" that was and how bears would only win 3-5 games in 2010, and many said bears would start 0-4 or at best 1-3.. so at 3-1, YES that does show the bears are "better" than much of the naysaying and 'doom and gloom" most had expected for the first month. will it continue? only time will tell and no one knows 100%, but based on the 4-12 record of our next 4 opponents I'd say a 2nd quarter like the first of 3-1 a nice 'trend" and likely to continue as have the first quarter( since i know how much you enjoy trends today),

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    Truth be told, Urlacher doesn't enjoy playing in the scheme, which doesn't encourage him to attack the line of scrimmage but, rather, forces him to patrol the middle of the field.
    "Personally, I don't like Cover 2," Urlacher said. "I have to run down the middle every time. I am basically out of the play unless they throw it down the middle of the field. Even if they run it, I am behind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    nope, but thanks for putting words in mouth..lol

    I 'thought" the bears would go 11-5 this year9 and right now on course for that), so expected some losses and sure not "dominating", and while took much crap here about how 'delusional homer" that was and how bears would only win 3-5 games in 2010, and many said bears would start 0-4 or at best 1-3.. so at 3-1, YES that does show the bears are "better" than much of the naysaying and 'doom and gloom" most had expected for the first month. will it continue? only time will tell and no one knows 100%, but based on the 4-12 record of our next 4 opponents I'd say a 2nd quarter like the first of 3-1 a nice 'trend" and likely to continue as have the first quarter( since i know how much you enjoy trends today),
    Oh bullshit, you used the 3-0 record to rub it in everyones faces and start fights, which is exactly what i called you out on before (and what really annoys the hell out of me). As soon as the Bears pulled off a 3-0 record, you started with the 'glad this shut up the naysayers" or "glad people were wrong" or "glad i was right" shit.

    And yes, you did get shit for predicting 11-5, and thats about as retarded as you giving shit to people who predicted 5-11. Nobody can predict what will happen, and all the predictions about what WILL happen (good or bad) are meaningless. And honestly, its not even about who is right and who is wrong, it should be about whats wrong with this team and how do we fix it, whats right with this team and can we continue to do that. And right now there is somehting that is very wrong with this team that needs to be fixed, or the "doom and gloom" may just become a reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    nope, but thanks for putting words in mouth..lol

    I 'thought" the bears would go 11-5 this year9 and right now on course for that), so expected some losses and sure not "dominating", and while took much crap here about how 'delusional homer" that was and how bears would only win 3-5 games in 2010, and many said bears would start 0-4 or at best 1-3.. so at 3-1, YES that does show the bears are "better" than much of the naysaying and 'doom and gloom" most had expected for the first month. will it continue? only time will tell and no one knows 100%, but based on the 4-12 record of our next 4 opponents I'd say a 2nd quarter like the first of 3-1 a nice 'trend" and likely to continue as have the first quarter( since i know how much you enjoy trends today),
    Are you saying coming into this season and watching the first couple games you thought the o-line would hold all season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by go4bears View Post
    Truth be told, Urlacher doesn't enjoy playing in the scheme, which doesn't encourage him to attack the line of scrimmage but, rather, forces him to patrol the middle of the field.
    "Personally, I don't like Cover 2," Urlacher said. "I have to run down the middle every time. I am basically out of the play unless they throw it down the middle of the field. Even if they run it, I am behind."

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    and the rest of that story..

    Urlacher recorded 185 tackles in the regular season, the second-highest total of his career. He didn't have any sacks -- that's not his role -- but led the Bears with 12 tackles for a loss and added eight passes defensed and three interceptions. He'll be heading to his sixth Pro Bowl in seven seasons. ..The advantage for the Bears is that, even if the play is away from the space he is defending, Urlacher's speed allows him to make plays on the ball. He is, essentially, a free safety who just happens to be the size of a defensive end...

    The Bears figured it out by his third game -- he had 12 tackles and a sack against the Giants -- and Urlacher has been stuck in the middle ever since. It makes sense to position him where he can make an impact on every play. His speed, he admits, isn't what it used to be, but with experience and film study he can still cover the young thoroughbreds offenses throw at him.
    "It's hard to throw the ball over me," Urlacher said. "The ball has to be elevated, which gives our safeties a chance to break on the ball.

    We are new-age linebackers. Back in the day, the middle linebacker was a run-stopper. Now we rush the passer, pass defend and still help with the run. There is so much more we do with our game now. Our defense is a lot more intricate, and it allows me to do more than maybe it allowed them to do because it's just the way it's set up."

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    doesn't change the fact he hates the scheme. So not only are fans not liking it neither are the players, didn't say anything about it not working. Oh and don't forget they also state that they use the cover 2 about 25-30% of the time. The rest is man. That is what you wanted right facts and here you go. I think I proved myself as knowledgeable. don't let the post count or any other info fool you. I may have been a bears fan for thirty years but it doesn't mean I have no idea what is going on and I am not going to turn a blind eye to the fact the o-line sucks and has for years. You think if an average fan can notice the wholes in this team. Why can't the man sitting upstairs?
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