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    Bears try to figure out how to fix what went wrong

    Bears try to figure out how to fix what went wrong

    By Jay Taft
    RRSTAR.COM
    Posted Oct 07, 2010 @ 12:47 AM

    LAKE FOREST —
    The Chicago Bears are still trying to figure out what went wrong last weekend when the offense fell apart in a 17-3 loss to the New York Giants on Sunday night.

    They just hope they can fix it in time to handle the winless Carolina Panthers on the road this weekend.

    “There’s a lot of things we’re doing to fix it. Hopefully Sunday we can protect our quarterback a little better. We had a bad game, but let’s not forget about all the good things we’ve done so far this season,” Bears head coach Lovie Smith said. “Our quarterbacks have been hit a few times, but a lot of quarterbacks have been hit at this point. We’re just hoping we can protect our quarterback better this week.”

    Jay Cutler was sacked nine times before leaving the game just before halftime with a concussion. Cutler practiced on a limited basis Wednesday, but his status for Sunday’s game is still uncertain.

    Todd Collins, who replaced Cutler last week and left the game late with a stinger, will fill in this week if Cutler can’t go.

    No matter who is in at QB, there is a lot of work to be done to get things turned around after the Week 4 debacle.

    Nine sacks; 51 yards passing; 59 yards on the ground; eight penalties; and three turnovers. A lot went wrong last week. Is there enough time to fix it all before Sunday?

    “It was upsetting, but that’s part of football. We’ll take it for what it was and go forward from there.
    We’ve got time. We can fix it,” offensive lineman Frank Omiyale said. “I have no idea why. That’s one of the upsetting things about it. Nothing worked out the way we wanted it to. We have a good game plan going in this week, and we’ll be ready to go.

    “It’s one game; we just can’t let that happen again.”

    Chicago’s defense came through time and time again until late in the fourth quarter, giving the offense several chances to get the team back into the game.

    It didn’t happen, and offensive coordinator Mike Martz accepted all of the blame after practice Wednesday.

    “I just tried to do way too much in a short week with these guys. We couldn’t do much right, and that was the coaches’ fault. Whatever went wrong in that game is my responsibility. It was just way too much for these guys to do,” Martz said. “These guys will be fine, I promise you that. These guys will be just fine. We got a little too aggressive in terms of what we were doing, and I’m a better coach than that.

    “We all could have done better, especially me.”

    And they all intend to do better this week. The team’s confidence did not take as big of a hit as some would think. The players and coaches continued to point out that this is a 3-1 team, and one with a lot of talent and a lot of potential.

    They also know that they need to play better than they did against the Giants if that potential is going to turn into something bigger.

    “We know what we’re getting into when we’re going out there (to North Carolina), and this is a game we know we have to play a lot better than our last game, and I think we will,” Smith added. “We’re all saying we’re going to pin it on ourselves. Coaches and players all had something to do with that loss … We’re all looking at ourselves in the mirror a little bit and trying to make sure that doesn’t happen again.

    “I can tell you I don’t think it will.”

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    They cannot fix no talent on the OL; unless they replace the OL. They cannot fix the fact that Manu and Olsen and Forte cannot block; unless they replace them w/someone that can block. You cannot fix an OC who doesn't understand 5-7 step drops w/an OL that is going to give your qb sub 3sec to throw is a bad idea.

    Need to go back to KO ball, 2-3 step drop, dump off to whoever is open; Cut Manu and keep Clark active and in the game at all times; he can actually block. Find an F'n FB, stat's(per 670) say Forte runs better behind them; until that happens you need to be running Taylor more.
    Reactivate DA; swallow your F'n pride, realize he's the best wr you have, outside Olsen, and use his speed size combo to help Cutler get the ball out more quickly(not to mention Cutler has more faith in him then anyother wr outside Olsen.


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    Actually forte was a very good blocker his first 2 years, so diagree that can't change

    manu is the NFL because of his blocking- so while he hasn't been good so far- disagree he can't block

    and disagree cutler has more "faith" in DA- he seems perfectly content with bennett in slot and knox/hester outside- that seems alot more your bias than anything factually ased

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    Don't care what they were, what they are is non blockin' sob's. Forte might be able to change, but until he shows he can, give me Taylor. Manu probably is an injury, doesn't change the fact he cannot block now; a healthy clark is better then a hurt manu, as witnessed in last weeks game.
    No bias at all, when DA is in the game and allowed to play, Cutler targets him more then anyone else, that is not bias, that is what it is. Cutler having to tell Hester what side of the field to be on tells you exactly how comfortable Cutler is/should be w/Hester.

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    well the only it changes is to play, so disagree he should be sat.

    Agree manu probably the injury, because hard to beleive a Blocking Te 'forgets" how to block was my point- Personally rather until the injury "healed" see Clark for him- just saying the 'claim" you can't fix manu is wrong- just need to get healthy.

    And we are not going to agree about DA- that he is not on the field, speaks volumes, despite your own views.

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    "well the only it changes is to play, so disagree he should be sat."

    Seriously what?

    I'm not saying he never could block, I'm saying he/they cannot block right now...I think we agree on this one

    You and I will disagree w/DA; I think it speak far more to Lovie and JA/co' then it does about DA. I still would love for someone to explain to me how the wr that had 14.0 ypc and I believe the most wr rec's in game 1 doesn't have a understanding of the playbook; but Hester, who still has to be told what side of the field to line up on has the best grasp of it. There has got to be some kind of complex math going on here that proves 1+1=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    "well the only it changes is to play, so disagree he should be sat."

    Seriously what?

    I'm not saying he never could block, I'm saying he/they cannot block right now...I think we agree on this one

    You and I will disagree w/DA; I think it speak far more to Lovie and JA/co' then it does about DA. I still would love for someone to explain to me how the wr that had 14.0 ypc and I believe the most wr rec's in game 1 doesn't have a understanding of the playbook; but Hester, who still has to be told what side of the field to line up on has the best grasp of it. There has got to be some kind of complex math going on here that proves 1+1=3
    Think if hester had the drops Da had and did't know the plays as DA did in week one, you would be the first screaming we need to bench Hester.. yet because it was DA, you "forgive the td drop and other dro and wrong patterns run" that got him benched and chastised for not knowing the position.

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    our offense should look like this

    num one wr=DA
    num 2 wr=Knox
    num 3 wr=bennet
    the num 4 wr should be either Olsen or Hester depending on the situation

    and that is what Martz envisioned until JA shut that idea down.

    as far as this article goes Lovie says all qbs get hit. Wel yours got hit for a record amount of time and cause two qb injuries. And I dont think that is Lovie fault. I dont think it is Martz fault. It is the idiot gm fault. How do you fix this? Next year draft when you draft another couple defensive linemen instead of oline. It sure has worked for us doing that the last three years

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    our offense should look like this

    num one wr=DA
    num 2 wr=Knox
    num 3 wr=bennet
    the num 4 wr should be either Olsen or Hester depending on the situation

    and that is what Martz envisioned until JA shut that idea down.

    as far as this article goes Lovie says all qbs get hit. Wel yours got hit for a record amount of time and cause two qb injuries. And I dont think that is Lovie fault. I dont think it is Martz fault. It is the idiot gm fault. How do you fix this? Next year draft when you draft another couple defensive linemen instead of oline. It sure has worked for us doing that the last three years
    LOL love the made up "ja shut it down' nonsense.. never any truth to it- but people hang their hat on it instead of the facts and statements( was thi a silly score rumor to start?)

    martz himself, said after seeing hester, that he was much better, knew the playbook better as to WHY HE moved him back outside.

    In addition, which mowtown you never reply about. Why if 25% of hester's contract is incentives, would the bears to save this money, have a problem giving him less snaps, would work to their benefit. and pay less, which you always say that is their mindset. In addition, if the Bears don't put out their BEST PLAYERS this year, angelo and company will be done- So makes no sense from even a human nature standpoint they PLAY THE BEST so save their jobs, not because a 'fav"...

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    I there anyway we can sticky a topic on 2010 o-line preformance. That way week in and out we just go to one thread to argue about how the line sucks or didn't suck as much. Also what is a good source for tracking FA?
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