Thread: Deion Sanders: "The Bears may be the best team in the NFC."

Originally Posted by short faced bear

If your too positive or too negative it skews your perspective and it inhibits your enjoyment. If your a fan long enough you know that it is a roller-coaster esp here. I absolutely enjoy the wins but we learn much (and correct) more from losing and hope not to REPEAT the same mistakes over and over.
In the short term (a few seasons) we are a good team that will most likely see the playoffs
In the long term (with the current regime) it is hard to see us in the SB competing for championships
It does tear a fan apart in a sense.

Whereas I am agree mostly to what you are saying, and I am very much NOT a Lovie Fan, it’s hard to make the non-emotion argument that this current regime can’t compete from championships, since they just did so a couple of years ago…

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

Oh you poor baby, someone is getting butt hurt because the non homer fans see the bad things with this team. I see the same shit you see when certain fans think they know everything and belittle other fans who do see problems with this team but instead of addressing them they ignore than and only focus on the good things only. Was it good for you to see the franchise qb get his ass kicked last week and set a new NFL record for sacks in a half because the offensive line does suck?

I saw the game I expected to see Sunday. I expected to win in spite of an ugly offense. I admit I didn't expect the running game to be as exciting as it was, but should I complain about that? The o line sucks ass, and we all know it. and none of us are happy about that. but it is what it is, and none of us can change it

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

What is so fun about beating shitty teams? Do you feel so much superior beating a team like the lions and barely winning? That win is more embarassing on how we won the game based on a stupid rule. Beating an 0-5 panthers with a POS qb who made Grossman look like a HOFer was not what I call impressive. If you feel good about this then fine, I perfer beating the tar out of garbage teams and making a statement than being lucky and winning games. I don't like garbage wins vs teams we should have crushed.

I like turtles…I mean wins…

Seriously, you sound like a miserable SOB to watch of game with…you must really suck the fun right out of the room…

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

What is so fun about beating shitty teams? Do you feel so much superior beating a team like the lions and barely winning? That win is more embarassing on how we won the game based on a stupid rule. Beating an 0-5 panthers with a POS qb who made Grossman look like a HOFer was not what I call impressive. If you feel good about this then fine, I perfer beating the tar out of garbage teams and making a statement than being lucky and winning games. I don't like garbage wins vs teams we should have crushed.

See, 4th, it's all about perspective, and you sir, have an extremely negative perspective of many things.

1. We won against the Lions due to the rules that are in place. You see that as luck, or stupid. I see it as playing the game within the rules. We also beat them with a pretty kick ass QB. They've used their backup since then and aren't the same team. Our game this week showed pretty well how important a good starting QB is to a team.

2. We beat the pack, again by playing by the rules. You see it as the pack beating themselves. I see it as them having to commit holding penalty after holding penalty in order to not get sacked a million times. We won that game, not the other way around.

3. We beat the panthers by a lot without any pass game whatsoever. Our Backup QB blows goats and threw 4 picks and we still managed to win by a large margin. You, however don't take that into account and think we beat a crappy team by not enough points.

4. We beat Dallas who also has a losing record. They were beaten by Washington, Chicago and Tennessee... but won against Huston. They were beaten by good teams but have also beaten a good team. I won't call them just another crappy team yet.

Don't you see how you are putting your own negative spin on everything when the end result is us being 4-1 and leading the division? It's one thing to discuss our weaknesses, but it's another to completely blow it all off and complain about every freaking thing.

You sir, are just Mr. Negativity.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

I’ve seen this movie before…after being called out for being a juvenile punk bitch, you pull out some trivial, pseudo intellectual argument in a lame attempt prove you’re still smarter than everyone else (which you’re not, not by a long shot, but that’s another story)…

But ok, I’ll play along…yes, padawan, 10 games is indeed a better sample size then 5 games…just as 16 games will be a better sample size then 10 games….just as 5 games is a better sample size then ZERO games…and don’t sit here and pretend you didn’t make preseason pontifications as to how the Bears would do and which teams were “good” and which teams were “bad”…

So, here we are, 5 games in…and the Bears are 4-1 sitting atop of the NFC North…are they the Best in the NFC?…maybe, maybe not…at Week Zero they were not; and at Week 10 maybe they won’t be either….but AT WEEK 5, they are certainly, and objectively, in the conversation…and Deion fa-king Sanders has nothing to do with that..

We all know you (and others) are personally invested, as lame and sad as that may be, in the Bears having a lousy season…you’re so wrapped up in having to be smarter then everyone (Lovie, Martz, JA, me, DB, and every optimistic fan), that you will never give this team any credit… you and other lame ass “Fans” will be here after every win to point out the obvious (like our OL still sucks and our secondary is lackluster) and to belittle anyone who dares to enjoy that win…and here after every lose to proudly remind everyone “I told you so”…

Same ole story with you, I attempt to have a rational intelligent conversation.. and you have to use DB method of proving you don't have a point. I don't know why I keep thinking one day you actually have one...

I did make preseason predictions when they signed Martz, pretty much either they will be very good or very bad.. if they finished 12-4, or 4-12.. it would not surprise me. But, the point is and have been making.. at 4-1, we don't know if the bears are good, or lucky.. Did you predict that Grant would go down week 1 for the packers as well as other injuries they are having? Do you get the point? Preseason predictions only matter till after the end of week 1.. If you want to keep using those to think you have a point.. go for it, I and others will just sit here and laugh.

I have personal interest in the Bears Losing.. How so, please explain to us..

BnB said it best, I am not one to celebrate them for not being horrible, which is what we have from you and DB54, Grizz and other homers. I hold the teams I favor up to higher standards. We don't know what the Bears are other than 4-1.. which means what exactly..

Originally Posted by chisportsfan

Very well said Wolfman. I think you hit the nail on the head. I would also add "they are also personally invested in wanting Lovie and JA gone after this season" so they won't be objective about the Bears performance to date.

Are you kidding me, I am not being objective.. Now that has to be a joke. You, DB54, wolf.. etc.. you homers are far from being objective.. How would you know what is objective when analyzing this team.

Originally Posted by AnthraxFan93

Same ole story with you, I attempt to have a rational intelligent conversation.. and you have to use DB method of proving you don't have a point. I don't know why I keep thinking one day you actually have one...

I did make preseason predictions when they signed Martz, pretty much either they will be very good or very bad.. if they finished 12-4, or 4-12.. it would not surprise me. But, the point is and have been making.. at 4-1, we don't know if the bears are good, or lucky.. Did you predict that Grant would go down week 1 for the packers as well as other injuries they are having? Do you get the point? Preseason predictions only matter till after the end of week 1.. If you want to keep using those to think you have a point.. go for it, I and others will just sit here and laugh.

I have personal interest in the Bears Losing.. How so, please explain to us..

BnB said it best, I am not one to celebrate them for not being horrible, which is what we have from you and DB54, Grizz and other homers. I hold the teams I favor up to higher standards. We don't know what the Bears are other than 4-1.. which means what exactly..

Why the hell not? Aren’t you glad they don’t appear to completely suck and are sitting a 4-1, instead of being 1-4? What actually do you have against other fans being happy and excited that we are 4-1 and leading the division?

Fine, you personally want to take things slower; you don’t want to get your hopes up…fine, I can actually understand that…but, why do you and people like 4th have run around actively pissing on everyone’s parade with all your negative bullshit…yeah, for the 1 millionth time, WE KNOW the O-LINE SUCKS!!!! WE KNOW we have NO BACKUP QB WORTH A SHIT…do you really think ANY Bears fans needs to be reminded of such obvious shit?

Do I think the Bears are the best team in the NFC?…no, not by a long shot…Are they the worst team in the NFC…once again, hell no, not by a long shot…and if that makes me a homer, then so be it…and if you can’t give the Bears any credit for being 4-1, outside of being “lucky,” then you’re neither much a fan nor much of an objective observer of the NFL…