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    Bears not perfect, but who is?

    Bears not perfect, but who is?

    What matters is Lovie's crew is good enough to keep winning

    David Haugh In the Wake of the News

    If I hear one more person complain about the Bears because their level of play falls short of some arbitrary local standard, I may lock myself in a room full of vuvuzela-tooting soccer fans just to escape the noise.

    Monday was a good day to find a cave in Chicago. Or earplugs.

    It's as if dyslexia suddenly plagued the city and everybody thought the Bears' victory Sunday made them 1-4, not 4-1.

    The Panthers would finish in the lower half of the ACC. By January, they will have made a valid argument for NFL contraction. I get it.


    And it matters not one iota in my football world. Apparently the masses so thoroughly unimpressed with the Bears forget the NFL grades on a curve.

    Five games into what I thought would be a bad season for the Bears, they find themselves atop the NFC class. That the class isn't exactly full of football Einsteins is irrelevant.

    It's a myth that NFL playoff teams have to fit any definition of good. Just good enough.

    The point isn't that the Bears looked so limited in winning on the road without starting quarterback Jay Cutler. The broader point is the win represented the type of game the Bears found a way to lose the last three seasons regardless of the quality of opponent.

    Yet based on the reaction, many critics are acting as stubborn and inflexible with their opinion of this team as they accuse Lovie Smith of being about everything. It's OK to adjust your Bears goggles this early.

    Believe me, finding fault with this roster isn't hard. It's how I killed time in Bourbonnais between practices. But things change. Every week of the NFL season is like a season unto itself. If Mike Martz can run the ball 65 percent of the time, you can open your mind about this Bears team.

    This isn't the same team that underwhelmed us enough in preseason to create such low expectations. This is a team that took advantage of an early schedule opportunity, survived a stretch of three out of five games away from home that included the loss of Cutler and lost only on the road to a Giants team that has the NFL's top-ranked defense.

    Nobody's saying that makes the Bears Super Bowl contenders. But can we please stop saying we still don't know what kind of team the Bears have? We know.

    They have a dominant defense giving up 14.8 points per game, above-average special teams with threats in the return game and a serviceable offense that's still learning. Based on the state of the NFC and the schedule, that makes the Bears the kind of team capable of finishing ahead of the injury-wracked Packers and scandal-plagued Vikings.

    What about that is so mysterious or objectionable?

    So much of Monday's post-mortem revolved around the wrath many people felt over the decision to start 38-year-old veteran Todd Collins, who played like Jonathan Quinn's twin brother. Indeed Collins stunk, and if Caleb Hanie isn't the choice to start if Cutler isn't cleared medically, then Smith is the one doctors need to give a diagnostic test.

    But is it fair to assail Jerry Angelo for his judgment on signing Collins on the same day Angelo's offseason prize, Julius Peppers, dominated the line of scrimmage again? Or as the other two free agents, Chester Taylor and Brandon Manumaleuna, finally started to show promise in their niches?

    I expected Collins to play better. So did Angelo and Martz and everyone who saw him every day in practice. You hit, you miss, you adjust accordingly.

    The Bears have excelled in such areas of flexibility, another source of encouragement. This team responds to coaching and has a staff unafraid to hold players accountable for all phases of their game.

    Examples abounded Sunday.

    The Bears had their best day rushing the ball in 20 years behind an offensive line that included rookie tackle J'Marcus Webb and street free-agent guard Edwin Williams. Wide receiver Johnny Knox threw a downfield block on Matt Forte's 18-yard touchdown run that could go on an instructional video. Taylor emerged as the league's most expensive short-yardage back.

    Defensively, strong safety Danieal Manning showed more fundamental progress at his fourth starting position in the secondary. End Israel Idonije, the organization's poster child of player development, had three sacks. Somehow cornerback Tim Jennings hasn't been exposed yet in his second week as the starter at left cornerback.

    As long as the defense plays at this level, the victories that look ugly everywhere but in the standings should keep coming. If they don't, rest assured I will pounce when appropriate. It's just not right now.

    Realistically, the team locals find so unacceptable has a legitimate shot to be at least 6-2 at midseason, flaws and all. After that, the Vikings, Eagles and Dolphins in November each promise to be close, final-possession games, but the Bears shouldn't be overmatched.

    Sure, the December portion of the schedule featuring the Jets and Patriots may expose the Bears as much as many expect. But by then, the Bears already may have nine wins and need only one more to be in a position so few thought they would be.

    It all could shape up to a miserable run to the playoffs in Chicago.

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    If I hear one more person complain about the Bears because their level of play falls short of some arbitrary local standard, I may lock myself in a room full of vuvuzela-tooting soccer fans just to escape the noise.

    Monday was a good day to find a cave in Chicago. Or earplugs.

    It's as if dyslexia suddenly plagued the city and everybody thought the Bears' victory Sunday made them 1-4, not 4-1.

    And it matters not one iota in my football world. Apparently the masses so thoroughly unimpressed with the Bears forget the NFL grades on a curve.

    Five games into what I thought would be a bad season for the Bears, they find themselves atop the NFC class. That the class isn't exactly full of football Einsteins is irrelevant.

    It's a myth that NFL playoff teams have to fit any definition of good. Just good enough.

    The point isn't that the Bears looked so limited in winning on the road without starting quarterback Jay Cutler. The broader point is the win represented the type of game the Bears found a way to lose the last three seasons regardless of the quality of opponent.

    Agree 100% with haugh- we are the only 4-1 team with so many insisting we are not good.

    And when the score was 17-3, and collins started the INT-fest, started thinking "oh no, we saw this story 2 years ago"... but instead of falling Apart like did in 2008, and losing 20-17, the bears SHOWED they have the mettle this time and instead of letting the Panthers back like did before, they closed it out 22-6..Which IMO shows a different attitude and wanting it alot more, the "D" like did in 2005 and 2006, closed the Deal, when the "O" went off track

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    Upon Further Review: Bears-Panthers

    LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- It's healthy skepticism, that natural tendency to focus on negativity.

    But to embrace a superficial viewpoint of Chicago's rise to 4-1 diminishes its significance as potential training ground for down the road when the stakes are highest, given all the challenges faced by the team through the first five games, not to mention the creative methods deployed to overcome them.

    "It has to help us later on to have won in different ways, and just how you have to. Each game is different," Bears coach Lovie Smith said. "If you talk offense, there's going to be some games where we're gonna have to just pass the ball a lot to win the football game. You just look at what you have to do to win the game at that time. Defensively, we played more man than we normally do [Sunday against the Panthers]. During the course of the season, you're going to have to rely on everything."

    Through five games, the Bears seem to have already cornered the market in that arena.

    Against the Panthers, the club overcame a horrid outing by backup quarterback Todd Collins (6.2 passer rating and four interceptions) with stellar play in the rushing game and on special teams to win 23-6. Chicago's wins this season come against teams with a combined record of 5-14, which casts doubt on how good the Bears really are.

    What's resonates most, though, is the club has been good enough.

    "You want to play hitting on all cylinders," said backup quarterback Caleb Hanie. "But in this league, it's hard to get wins on the road, and we'll take them as we can get them. You can say, ‘ugly victory,' but you can also take the good things out of the game."

    Like this: a week after sputtering against the Giants in allowing 10 sacks while rushing for just 59 yards, the Bears -- already missing starting quarterback Jay Cutler and starting left tackle Chris Williams -- bolstered the weakest side of their line with a rookie (J'Marcus Webb) at right tackle, and a right guard (Edwin Williams) who had played in just five career games headed into the contest. The duo didn't exactly inspire talk of the Pro Bowl.

    Webb and Edwin Williams merely performed solidly in helping Matt Forte rush for a career-high 166 yards and a pair of touchdowns, as the team combined for 218 yards on the ground.

    "It shows how resilient they are," Forte said. "Those two young guys, they weren't out there wide eyed and scared of anybody."

    Knowing all week Cutler wouldn't be unavailable for Sunday's contest, the Bears tailored the game plan to help out Collins, who would be making his first start since 2007. Offensive coordinator Mike Martz bucked his own pass-happy reputation to make sure the club spent a good portion of the afternoon operating out of double-tight end formations to bolster the ground game, while taking pressure off Collins.

    "All along we've said we're going to do what we have to [in order] to win the game," tight end Greg Olsen said. "Our running game has been spotty in the first couple of weeks, and yesterday was a good opportunity with Jay out and obviously some of those factors playing in there [gave us] a good chance to get the running game going."

    Ultimately, when asked to throw, Collins faltered.

    Yet the Bears picked up the pieces around him in other areas, which is what they've done throughout the season in several different areas when needed. Whether it's been the leaky offensive line, an anemic ground attack or a front seven that can't get to the quarterback, the Bears continue to find ways to hide weaknesses and erase mistakes by highlighting strengths and forcing opponent miscues.

    They've done so with coaching adjustments, and clutch plays in key moments in every facet of the game, in addition to a little luck.

    "You've got your second-, your third-string quarterback in the game," Devin Hester said. "You know, you want to give him as much help as you can. When you get good field position by the returners, it takes a lot of pressure off. We wanted to get good field position to eliminate some of the stress on the quarterback."

    Hester and safety Danieal Manning did that with electric performances on returns. Hester ran back three punts for 68 yards, including a 50-yarder. Manning averaged 44.3 yards on three kick returns. His game-opening return, a 62-yarder, set up Forte's first touchdown burst. Manning returned his second kickoff 37 yards to set up Forte's 68-yard TD on the very next play.

    Safety Chris Harris said the club should be able to benefit from all it's been through over the first five weeks.

    Facing so many challenges while overcoming the majority of them in a variety of ways gives the Bears confidence about how they'll handle adversity in November and December when the stakes go up and the club's playoff life is potentially on the line.

    "We see we can win close games," Harris said. "We can play down the stretch, run the ball when we need it, and play good defense. All of this is very good to get early, so when November and December come around, we can be prepared."

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    I'd like to think that there is so much parody that many teams have gaping holes like we do. The proof will be in the pudding the 2nd half of schedule. I'm hoping we are one of the teams that shows the best improvement by then and peak towards season's end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    I'd like to think that there is so much parody that many teams have gaping holes like we do. The proof will be in the pudding the 2nd half of schedule. I'm hoping we are one of the teams that shows the best improvement by then and peak towards season's end.
    agreed, and never undersell "momentum", you start winning like bears and it feeds on itself, and teams that just know they can win close games- do.. like what harris said:

    Facing so many challenges while overcoming the majority of them in a variety of ways gives the Bears confidence about how they'll handle adversity in November and December when the stakes go up and the club's playoff life is potentially on the line.

    "We see we can win close games," Harris said. "We can play down the stretch, run the ball when we need it, and play good defense. All of this is very good to get early, so when November and December come around, we can be prepared."

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    Yes in individual sports I believe you create your own momentum. In team sports the collective psyche is always in play. I'd rather have the problems, winning ugly, adversity now and get the momentum rolling than stop towards playoff time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by short faced bear View Post
    Yes in individual sports I believe you create your own momentum. In team sports the collective psyche is always in play. I'd rather have the problems, winning ugly, adversity now and get the momentum rolling than stop towards playoff time.
    Exactly..and having the o-line come together now and be peaking( which for them probably not a high level) come the end of the year may turn out a blessing in disguise..

    we have a top "D" , easily playoff worthy

    We have the 2nd ranked ST- again easily playoff worthy

    we have an "O" that at times has shown playoff worthy and other teams real bad.. So if we just get the "O" to the 10-15 level, think we can really be as good as any team in the league, esp this year where just no real "WOW' teams

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    The 4-1 Chicago Bears must be doing something right

    Instead of fretting over Todd Collins' abominable performance in the Bears' 23-6 victory over the Carolina Panthers on Sunday in Charlotte, maybe we should celebrate the Bears' good fortune.

    They won without Jay Cutler.

    Their quarterback had a 6.2 passer rating and they still won.

    The Bears had 42 rushes.

    The Bears started J'Marcus Webb at tackle and Edwin Williams at guard and not only won the game, but rushed for 218 yards.

    Where we normally curse the Bears' bad luck, this time we can revel in their perfect timing: They had to go on the road without Cutler, but played a winless team with a rookie quarterback just as helpless as their own. A team relying on three rookie receivers after cutting Dwayne Jarrett (DWI arrest) and losing Bears-killer Steve Smith to an injury the week before.

    And next up are the Seahawks, Redskins and Bills.

    Instead of worrying about what went wrong, maybe we should focus on what went right, like Matt Forte running away from people, Danieal Manning returning the opening kickoff 62 yards AND making a pass breakup near the goal line. Corey Graham getting yet another special-teams tackle. Israel Idonije getting three sacks.

    Instead of worrying about the future, maybe we should be happy with the bottom line. The Bears are 4-1, tied with Atlanta for the No. 1 seed in the NFC. The preseason favorite Cowboys, Saints and Vikings each already have two losses.

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