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Thread: Bears bungled O-line from the start

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    Couldn't agree more Butka, but we're just know nothing fans, we cannot possibly know what we are watching on the field, we've never played the game or broken down the 1000's of hours of film to do anything to question this fantastic organization.

    I know there isn't a lot to go on, but what have you seen from the new guys?

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    Bears bungled O-Line from the start... no shit.

    But screwing up the O-Line goes back to the start of angelo.

    It all starts there.

    Plugins...free agents...waiting till the third round or worse to develop talent on OL.

    Has any other team been this disrespecful of THE TRENCHES?

    Ya know I kind of get everything angelo does...

    but the O-Line ?

    Thats a sin.

    It has been showing for so long its not even funny.

    Thats sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butka View Post
    I don't know that there were that many sure-fire impact guys available THIS offseason. The problem is that we've relatively ignored the position for so long, it's coming back to haunt us. Many people saw this coming years ago.
    dead on Butka!

    although, I do think the team could make a run at Logan Mankins, and draft either a C or OT in the first 2 rounds

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    in replying to the original article, I would point out 1 thing:

    good offensive lineman can come as highly vaunted FAs or high draft picks, but they can also come as relative dark horses

    the Bears currently have 5 offensive line prospects: Chris Williams, Frank Omiyale, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and John Asiata (2 OTs, 3 OGs)

    I think realistically, we should hope to have 2 turn into decent starters

    Right now, I see 1 guy who looks like he has a legit shot at starting... and oddly enough that person is Frank Omiyale. He has been reasonably good so far this season... he hasn't been great, but I see some potential to build off of. Williams I'm still holding my breath on, but right now, he isn't looking anything other than a backup swing tackle at best. I personally feel that the jury is still out on Louis and E. Williams, but forget Asiata.

    The key for the Bears going forward this offseason is a comprehensive plan for the o-line - i.e., picking up some immediate help in FA while also drafting several players.

    I would strongly suggest making a run at Mankins if he comes available, and then drafting BPA amongst C, OG, and OT in the first 3 rounds (amongst a few other positions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Couldn't agree more Butka, but we're just know nothing fans, we cannot possibly know what we are watching on the field, we've never played the game or broken down the 1000's of hours of film to do anything to question this fantastic organization.

    I know there isn't a lot to go on, but what have you seen from the new guys?
    I apologize Ricza, I haven't been able to give an honest look at the line the last two weeks. My daughter is less than 2 weeks old. Half of my attention was directed towards her and helping out my wife last Sunday, so I didn't really watch Edwin WIlliams. Before the last two weeks, what I saw from Webb was mostly good for his experience level. My biggest criticisms of him are that his kick-slide can be a little slow at times, and he can bend at waist a bit much, especially once he fatigues. Bending at the waist will cause him to hunch over, lose his solid base, lose his balance, and over-extend. There's different ways to address all of that, but what I think will serve to help him the most is simply an off-season with a pro strength and conditioning coach. I like his upper body strength and he's usually very athletic for his size. In pass pro, he stands up to power moves really well. I think he has a high ceiling. I see why Tice liked him.

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