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Originally Posted by
Slipscreen
I don't know our secondary seemed very suspect against green bay and made Mike Williams, look like Jerry Rice, though maybe it our "cover-who?" scheme. I still think Jay needs a go to guy or at least a veteran receiver though Knox will be a stud in another year or 2.
But, if the pass rush were, say, like the Bears receive week in and week out, the opposing QB would not have time to throw...!!! And the secondary would seem normal...!!!
3nagurski
"...Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...."
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Originally Posted by
3nagurski
WHAT games are you watching...?!?
3nagurski
the one where I started counting how long the line was protecting for... 3-5 seconds is actually a decent amount of time by NFL standards... the line looked bad, but cutler had time to throw the short routes... the same routes every else agreed they saw getting open all day....
my point is the line CAN provide enough protection to move the ball.... no we arn't getting the 7 step 40 yard bombs... but we're not taking advantage of the things we DO have either...
enough time to make QUICK throws and let the reciever's make a play.... Dallas game anyone??
Plus I think we're being too hard on the line as individuals. these are guys that CAN play. I think if we would have started the same 5 every game up to this point it would be easier to prove what I'm trying to say.
Line is bad... but it has the potential to play "good enough".
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I actually noticed that too, and wondered why the seahawks were allowed to continually bunch up their LB/DB's up on one side to blitz over and over without throwing a slant in that direction...
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Manu should be gone. We could have drafted a rookie TE that is a better blocker and could perhaps catch a pass or two. Having a FB around like Tu'ufo'ou or someone would have been nice as well.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
Restore the roar!
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A blast from the past, or...
...a warning of things to come...???
Lovie likely to hold his fire
Ignoring outcry from critics, Smith says Bears were too 'close' in 2007 to tear up coaching staff
December 20, 2007
BY MIKE MULLIGAN mmulligan@suntimes.com
Bears coach Lovie Smith isn't so much a defiant fellow as a confident coach who understands that, with two games and 11 days left in the season, he and his team are sitting ducks for critics.
But while everyone prepares for an offseason blame game followed by a purge of players and coaches who have lost sympathy from the public, Smith sounds like a man more interested in a relaunch than a rebuilding.
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Bears' Ron Turner
(Al Podgorski/Sun-Times file)
''I'm not saying we're not going to make any changes,'' Smith said. ''We do need to make some changes -- you need to every year -- but not wholesale changes.''
Smith is as disappointed as anyone about the Bears' dreary 5-9 season, but the coach whose cup always overflows with optimism uses a word many fans would laugh at to describe the circumstances of the fallen NFC champions.
''Close,'' Smith said. ''It's disappointing we are 5-9, but it is not like we are that far away. When we were getting ready to go to the Super Bowl last year, we were close. We had a lot of close games that went with us.
''This year, we played close games, but we haven't been able to finish the job. With a new year, we will be able to correct some of those things and get back. So we're closer than our record says right now.''
In fact, Smith believes the Bears are so close, ''that's why you don't start from scratch.''
'No issue' with Turner
Interesting words to consider when tabulating an over/under on assistants who will be fired this offseason. Keeping coordinators Ron Turner and Bob Babich might be considered potentially disastrous in some circles, but Smith doesn't seem to see it that way. Many believe Turner is a lock to be job-hunting in the offseason, but Smith dismissed the idea he's unhappy with his offensive coordinator.
''No, there is no issue with Ron,'' Smith said. ''I am not going to start addressing guys. Each day I talk, I'm not going to give guys a vote of confidence. This is our staff -- the same one that helped us go to the Super Bowl the year before. We haven't had a good year. All of us are a part of it. All of us will get that corrected. It's as simple as that.''
Smith hasn't been shy about reshaping his staff in each of his three previous offseasons. And coaches depart for other jobs each year. The Bears changed four coaching positions after the 2004 season, three after 2005 and five after the Super Bowl last year.
But Smith is unlikely to demote or fire defensive coordinator Babich, whose first year replacing Ron Rivera has seen the Bears fall from a top-five ranking to 29th in the NFL. Injuries have played a part, and the move to Babich wasn't designed with only short-term goals in mind.
Turner has faced increased criticism as the Bears' offense stalled for large portions of the season, and his play-calling has come under growing scrutiny. Turner said the criticism is fair.
''Yeah, when you are not winning, not scoring points, yeah, sure,'' Turner said. ''It's everybody. It's not just the players, not just us, it's not just the play-calling -- it's everybody combined. We're not getting it done.''
Turner defended his play-calling by saying all the Bears' self-scouting and searching for tendencies has revealed one simple fact:
''[It's] very similar to what it was a year ago,'' he said.
Public opinion won't matter
Smith said he will review and make evaluations at season's end as he does every year: without emotion or concern for public opinion. Every decision he has made in terms of his coaching staff -- be it firing offensive coordinator Terry Shea after one year or not renewing Rivera's deal after a Super Bowl run -- was done with the idea of making the team better, he said.
A bad season, however, has plenty of naysayers smelling blood, and the Bears and Smith are under attack, be it from unnamed sources in Pro Football Weekly or from the broadcast team on ''Monday Night Football.''
''We're 5-9, so I don't assume there is a lot of good press,'' Smith said. ''No one is real excited about what we have done this year. I am the head football coach. I assume I am going to get attacked from now until we do something about it. That goes with the territory.
''Does it mean a whole lot to me? No. If guys start putting their names beside something and personally attack me, I will respond to it. For the cowards -- 'sources say' and things like that -- I don't respond to things like that.''
Smith already is planning a form of response called ''next year.''
''Anybody that wants to take a shot at us right now, here is the time to do it because we're down,'' Smith said. ''We're an easy target -- right now. We won't be for long.
''But this year is a down year for us, so all the ones who have never really been behind what we're doing, they can take their shots right now. But we'll fix it and come back stronger than ever.''
I can see history repeating itself...
3nagurski
"...Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue...."
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http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...numaleuna.html
Chester Taylor
2010
$2 million signing bonus
$955,000 base salary
$4 million roster bonus
$45,000 workout bonus
Total: $7.0 million
2011
$1.25 million base salary
$25,000 workout bonus
Total: $1.275 million
2012
$1.75 million base salary
$25,000 workout bonus
Total: $1.775 million
2013
$2.425 million base salary
$25,000 workout bonus
Total: $2.45 million
Contract total: $12.5 million, four seasons
Brandon Manumaleuna
2010
$2 million signing bonus
$1.055 million base salary
$3 million roster bonus
$50,000 workout bonus
Total: $6.105 million
2011
$1.495 million base salary
$1 million roster bonus
$100,000 workout bonus
Total: $2.595 million
2012
$1.95 million base salary
$100,000 workout bonus
Total: $2.05 million
2013
$2 million base salary
$100,000 workout bonus
Total: $2.1 million
2014
$2.05 million base salary
$100,000 workout bonus
Total: $2.15 million
Contract total: $15 million, five seasons
Taylor has been almost as much a victim of a crappy OL as anyone. Manumaleuna must be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Originally Posted by
Slipscreen
no kidding i have no idea what games people are watching. this team is horrible the defense sucks and has sucked for a LONG time. the offensive line is horrible as we all know i can't believe anyone would say they have gotten better.
people say run the ball! really? because every time we tried that it was for 1-2 yards and thats if we are lucky. throw some slants, they tried that Knox broke it off too late. and you wonder why Jay doesn't throw to spots? because with the receivers we have they probably wont be there.
so hmm we need to upgrade
receivers
Oline
secondary
shocker we knew that coming into this season and in the preseason. it really shows when we are playing real teams and not scrubs like Carolina.
We've needed those since the SB; but JA said it starts w/the QB, and that the talent outside of that was here.....oh wait, he was dead wrong. It starts w/the OL and builds out. This is how bad teams ruin good qb's w/tons of potential, they don't protect them w/strong OL's and the qb gets gun shy. It took KO until close to have the season to even try the deeper throws last year w/a good OL b/c he was so used to having to dump it off while in Chicago. Now he still dumps off a lot, but you can expect him to go deep a couple times a game now b/c of his confidence in the OL.
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Originally Posted by
GrizzlyBear91
the one where I started counting how long the line was protecting for... 3-5 seconds is actually a decent amount of time by NFL standards... the line looked bad, but cutler had time to throw the short routes... the same routes every else agreed they saw getting open all day....
my point is the line CAN provide enough protection to move the ball.... no we arn't getting the 7 step 40 yard bombs... but we're not taking advantage of the things we DO have either...
enough time to make QUICK throws and let the reciever's make a play.... Dallas game anyone??
Plus I think we're being too hard on the line as individuals. these are guys that CAN play. I think if we would have started the same 5 every game up to this point it would be easier to prove what I'm trying to say.
Line is bad... but it has the potential to play "good enough".
Isn't this the stuff that some "fans" were fed up with, the dump offs and throwing to TE's and RB's; you know that RT stuff? BTW I completely agree w/you; and have for several years been saying this is all we can afford to do b/c the line isn't that good to chuck it 30-50 yards multiple times a game.
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Only reason Chester Taylor's deal looks so bad, is because the Bears are not using him.
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Originally Posted by
GrizzlyBear91
I still think we have a legit shot at being a 10-6 team.
the Line has shown that they CAN provide protection... you want to get yourself even MORE frustrated. get a stopwatch and aside from the obvious "we just got blown up" plays by the O-line... see how long Cutler was holding the ball...
He's not looking for open spots... he's looking for open recievers... I'd bet money on it.
You would most likely win that bet! He does hold the ball too long on some plays!