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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmors View Post
    Maybe when the FO stops picking up DL just to turn around and dump them anyway, we will run out of DL joke material.
    So if the bears do nothing , you complain not even trying to upgrade any position at any level.. and if there are no big moves to be made at this time by all teams( money spent, uncertainity of cap next year , cba etc etc).. when try and upgrade at no cost a position with a "look" of a scrapple player and it doesn't work out, you complain they dumped them.. they are Dammed if do, dammed if don't I guess don't get that mentality
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    While it’s more than apparent that the Bears did not pick up blitzes against the Seattle Seahawks, the reason is more interesting. Coaches made a major change in protection scheming Saturday before the game and that appears to have been at the root of some problems, particularly with picking up defensive backs.




    The change involved who was to pick up blitzing defensive backs, the scourge of the afternoon for the Bears. Assignments were completely altered to make a blitzing DB the responsibility of a back, where previously it was not. As a result, to use one example, a defensive back comes on the blitz, right tackle J’Marcus Webb lets him go because it’s the responsibility of Matt Forte or Chester Taylor, but the back didn’t make the switch from what had been coached to the new way.

    Well butka, in some ways does make me feel a "little better" about the "inexcusible" tackle stuff we saw-and at least some logic behind why they just let them breeze by and not their faults on some- Which as Mullin said is fixable.. But Both taylor and Forte known as Smart backs and decent blockers, why they didn't pick it up baffling,but at least easy to get to the bottom of that and not have it next game

    Back to KISS and making sure all on same page,imo
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    The inability of the DT's to get penetration pass rushing is more glaring to me than the play of the DE's

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    ZachZaidman Robbie Gould has made 55 consecutive FGs inside the 40-yard line, the longest current streak in the NFL.

    ZachZaidman Julius Peppers had 2 sacks last year in a game against Washington

    ZachZaidman Redskins LB Brian Orakpo has 8.5 sacks in past 9 road games

    ZachZaidman Donovan McNabb has won 4 of his 5 career starts in Illinois against the Bears, including the playoffs.

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    Statistical analysis: Lucky turnovers, misleading tackle stats and other notes

    The Colts took charge of Sunday night's game early in the first quarter.

    There were a lot of ups and downs Sunday night, but if you wanted to point to one sequence of plays that changed the entire complexion of the game, it was the Donovan McNabb interception immediately followed by a 57-yard touchdown strike by Peyton Manning in the first quarter. The Redskins went from a solid drive into Indianapolis territory and a 60 percent chance of winning to being down by 7 points with a 29 percent chance of winning. The Redskins could never catch up. No other play, or sequence of plays, had nearly the impact that those two did.

    The Redskins have been lucky with turnovers so far.
    Turnovers were critical Sunday night, but in reality they are very random, meaning that generating and preventing turnovers is far less of a skill and far more driven by chance than most people believe. Teams with good turnover differentials halfway through the season are not much more likely to continue good fortune than teams with poor differentials. The good news is that the Redskins have a +5 differential so far this year, tied for third in the NFC. The bad news is that they can't count on it to continue.

    Some stats mean different things for different positions.
    LaRon Landry leads the league with 63 tackles, but despite his solid play, this is one stat a safety does not want. The more tackles a safety is making, the further down the field the opponent is getting.

    Fletcher and McIntosh are leading the defense.
    Individual tackles can be a very misleading statistic. One reason is that bad defenses tend to give up a lot of first downs and long drives, giving below-average defenders lots opportunities to rack up tackles. Plus, some positions, such as linebacker, are expected to have more tackles than others. To make better sense of tackles, I created a stat called Tackle Factor (TF). TF looks at the percentage of a team's tackles that each player makes, and then compares that to what proportion of tackles we should expect for a player at his position. For example, linebackers should typically account for 11 percent of a team's tackles and assists. London Fletcher has tallied 37 tackles and 23 assists this season, accounting for 18 percent of the Redskins' tackles and assists, making his TF 1.5. Put simply, Fletcher has about 60 percent more tackles than you'd expect for his position. Right behind Fletcher is Rocky McIntosh with a TF of 1.3. Landry actually leads the squad with a 1.8 TF, but that's mostly a result of failures elsewhere in the defense.

    Speaking of failures, the Redskins' defensive line has been nearly silent in 2010.
    As a unit, it has accounted for 13 percent of the team's tackles, second worst for 3-4 defenses and for the league as a whole. (The NFL average is 22 percent.) The line has notched only 6 tackles for a loss all season, compared to a league average of 11. The line is credited with 3 sacks and 4 QB hits, well below the league averages of 7 sacks and 12 hits. Obviously the transition to the 3-4 has had an effect, but regardless of scheme, the Redskins' defensive line is not getting the job done, neither stopping the run nor pressuring quarterbacks. The Redskins have an urgent need for a defensive lineman who can single-handedly impact a game. Unfortunately, there's no one on the roster who might be able...oh, wait, there is...at least for now.

    Chicago is an enigmatic team.
    They started off hot, mostly thanks to Jay Cutler's blazing pass efficiency, which was best in the league until the catastrophic meltdown against the Giants in Week 4. Cutler has been sacked 23 times this season, 5 more times than the next quarterback, which is amazing in itself. But he's played a game and half less than the other leading sack victims. A better way to look his sacks might be sack rate, the percentage of dropbacks that result in sacks. He's been dropped on a whopping 14 percent of all dropbacks. (The average is 6 percent.) Even without the 9 sacks suffered in the Giants game, Cutler would still sport a 12 percent sack rate, worse than any other current starter in the league. Making matters worse for Chicago, they have struggled to run effectively all season, ranking 24th in run success rate. The defense has been keeping Chicago competitive lately. It's among the better squads in the league, allowing only 5.5 net yards per pass attempt and 3.5 yards per carry, ranking 7th and 3rd in the league respectively

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Shanahan overhauled a Redskins line that was allowing sacks at a rate of 10 more per year in each of the last two seasons. He brought back two aging veterans in center Casey Rabach and guard Derrick Dockery and added first-round pick Trent Williams at tackle, traded a mid-round pick for tackle Jammal Brown and signed free-agent guard Artis Hicks from the Minnesota Vikings.
    So, offensive lines can be fixed in one off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Well butka, in some ways does make me feel a "little better" about the "inexcusible" tackle stuff we saw-and at least some logic behind why they just let them breeze by and not their faults on some- Which as Mullin said is fixable.. But Both taylor and Forte known as Smart backs and decent blockers, why they didn't pick it up baffling,but at least easy to get to the bottom of that and not have it next game

    Back to KISS and making sure all on same page,imo
    I've got to see the results validated on the field before I say the problem is fixed. Until I see the results validated on the field I'll expect the same results as the Seahawks game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaJeff View Post
    I've got to see the results validated on the field before I say the problem is fixed. Until I see the results validated on the field I'll expect the same results as the Seahawks game.
    NO WHERE in my post did i say it was Fixed jeff- just pointing out despite the 'lynch all O-lineman" mentality, and not ever looking at other's or any explanation of what happened- Was good to see this explained to us Fan's, and that a large part was NOT, as we thought the Oline making the mistake- but the Rb's not picking up the blitz's they were supposed to- which IMO is a much easier problem to rectify, than the o-line players just not having a clue.

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201010...ks@bears/watch

    at the 1:03 mark, you actually see forte come over to get the safety and just completey wiff on the block

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    The defense has been keeping Chicago competitive lately. It's among the better squads in the league, allowing only 5.5 net yards per pass attempt and 3.5 yards per carry, ranking 7th and 3rd in the league respectively
    We have a good defense. If the offense learns to block this could be a very good football team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearStuff View Post
    Brilliant! and it never gets old reading about what the joke of a front office does 10x a day.


    Keep Cliff Stein, fire everyone else from Phillips down. They suck.
    I think we'd keep Toub aswell

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