Thread: Tice exhorts lineman to know jobs and do them

Originally Posted by grabowski85

Mike Tice is a freaking genius with this quote:

“There’s a reason sometimes, young linemen look like they don’t know what they’re doing because, usually, they don’t.”

Fear not, Bears fans. Your offensive line woes are getting fixed by this guy!

if truthful get killed for it,, if lie get killed for it.. so gues the answer is to not talk to the media : )

Line needs to major in communications

by sean jensen

Continuity is a key to consistent offensive line play, which might explain -- at least in part -- the abundance of issues for the Bears.

Six games into the season, the Bears are already on their fourth combination on the offensive line, although coach Lovie Smith and offensive line coach Mike Tice have said that last Sunday's five are in line to start again Sunday against the Washington Redskins

The Bears are concerned about the play of the offensive line -- particularly the pass protection that has quarterback Jay Cutler on pace to be sacked 69 times -- but they also recognize the inevitable growing pains of two unheralded and inexperienced players starting side-by-side. Edwin Williams, undrafted in 2009, had two starts under his belt before joining the Bears practice squad just before the season. The former college center is the team's starting right guard. J'Marcus Webb, a 2010 seventh-round pick out West Texas A&M, is preparing for his third consecutive start at right tackle.

The Bears have been encouraged by the play of the two young players, but they have endured a couple of natural byproducts: uncertainty and an inability to communicate.

While veteran center Olin Kreutz lines up his linemates, each player is responsible for verbalizing what they see. That, Tice said, didn't happen enough against the Seattle Seahawks, who peppered the Bears with blitzes.

''We have some young guys out there that didn't communicate some things,'' Tice said. ''One guy sees it and doesn't pass it along. It kind of hurts the mesh of things.''

Part of it is confidence, Tice said.

''On the field, they don't speak because they're not positive they know what they know,'' Tice said. ''Unfortunately, if they would just believe themselves, they'd be right, nine out of 10 times.''

But Tice insisted Williams and Webb weren't solely to blame.

''The sacks and some of the flaws in the protection aren't just on those guys,'' Tice said. ''We did a great job of spreading it around.''

Running back Chester Taylor said running backs have to pick up blitzing defensive backs, or help with linemen or linebackers.
''It's all about execution,'' Taylor said.

Tice was upbeat Wednesday, downplaying concern that his line is overwhelmed with protections and any issue he might have with offensive coordinator Mike Martz.

Asked about his relationship with Martz, Tice said, ''Fantastic. We're trying to work through who we are. We're trying to work through together, what we can ask the guys to do, not just in the O-line but across the board.''

Before the game against Carolina, Tice said linemen are ''big when they're going forward,'' noting an advantage of running more. The Bears ran a season-high 42 times for 218 yards. But against the Seahawks, Taylor and Matt Forte attempted 12 runs.
Martz admitted Wednesday that the Bears should have run the ball more against the Seahawks.

''Particularly in the second half,'' Martz said. ''I need to change there.''

Given his team's problems, Taylor wasn't surprised the Seahawks kept blitzing.

''If something's working, why not stick to it?'' Taylor said. ''So they kept sticking to it and bringing different people from different places.

''We just have to adjust a lot better.''

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

if the guy sugar coats it.... he get's lit up with sarcastic comments....

if he comes flat out and tells you the truth, he's an idiot....

dude... Seriously... The guy has more experience getting the most out of players than 90% of the leauge....

if there IS ANY guy who can get it done... we have him.

Maybe some of us are tired of the talking, and want to see something actually change on the field. When that happens, then i doubt any of us will care WHAT they say, one way or the other.

the oline isnt going to do anything with crap talent.

and edwin williams came off a teams practice squad with a bad oline. Why would he have been on the practice squad with that teams woes on the oline? That is the crap we are starting on a weekly basis. thanks ja!

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

your right... cause any other coach in the league could just snap there fingers and *POOF* pro-bowl line...

look, I want to see this line do something other than pirouette and curtsey every time the ball is snapped...
and I'm sure Tice will get these guys playing solid ball as soon as we can lock in Five steady guys...

I never siad it was that easy...i was merely pointing out why people harp on them regardless of what they say to the media. They can talk all they want, people are just tired of the talking.

Originally Posted by motownbear

the oline isnt going to do anything with crap talent.

and edwin williams came off a teams practice squad with a bad oline. Why would he have been on the practice squad with that teams woes on the oline? That is the crap we are starting on a weekly basis. thanks ja!

It's pretty simple. Either adapt the playcalling to fit the abilities of the line or suffer. This group isn't going to miraculously turn into studs during the season.