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Originally Posted by
dabears54 
and they ran the ball alot more and actually had better TOP the first 4 games then did with big ben, thus making their "D" stats better as on the field for less plays.
just saying.. and that doesn't change the point of giving up 300 yards a week would make team top 5 in the league as 300 yards is NOT tearing up a "D"
I would say the quality of teams the steelers have faced are better than the bears. The best runningback we faced may be Bradshaw or the skins back. The steelers have faced Ray Rice, Chris Johnson and Michael Turner, ronnie brown/Ricky Williams and even peyton hillis. I would say Tampa is the worst of the teams they played where we played the panthers and lions. Our stats are good because of these two teams that pretty much had no qb playing for either team. Worst yet we let Mike William carve up our secondary.
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Originally Posted by
Jimmors Its "getting lost" because it doesnt mean a damn thing if they cant win games. D can be #1 in all stat columns, and if we lose...what does it matter?
Unless I'm mistaken Jimmors, the San Diego Chargers were highly ranked coming into this week offensively AND defensively. Meanwhile, their record is poor.
I totally get seeking a silver lining when your favorite team is not playing well but those defensive numbers, while impressive, should be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah, the defense is playing solid football but there are two other phases to the game that have prevented the Bears from enjoying a better record.
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Originally Posted by
purplejokr Unless I'm mistaken Jimmors, the San Diego Chargers were highly ranked coming into this week offensively AND defensively. Meanwhile, their record is poor.
I totally get seeking a silver lining when your favorite team is not playing well but those defensive numbers, while impressive, should be taken with a grain of salt. Yeah, the defense is playing solid football but there are two other phases to the game that have prevented the Bears from enjoying a better record.
PJ would be this like you saying the other week when vikes at 1-3, that the "D" was putting up good numbers and you were "not worried", and because the "D" on vikes ranked #3 all ok , and we shouldn't just take the "D' numbers with a grain of salt...: )
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Originally Posted by
Cornish Barring a more consistent and productive pass rush and the rest of the line taking more heat off Peppers this defense, with a core of star players desperate for success as their years sadly start to catch up with them, has been a breath of fresh air. With all the heat rightfully coming Martz's way, Marinelli's good work is getting buried.
Even without the sack count, this defense really does deserve better from their GM, HC, OC, OL and, sad to say it given the beating he's taken in previous weeks, now their QB.
I've really enjoyed watching this D develop this season.
think izzy is really stepping up in the other side of peppers, he's been a beast the last few weeks, he was in mcnabb's face alot sunday, had the pass block that lead to the TD by moore and had a sack.. been what we have needed on the other side
Has 4.5 sacks now, 2 passes defended and 2 FF
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Originally Posted by
Jimmors Its "getting lost" because it doesnt mean a damn thing if they cant win games. D can be #1 in all stat columns, and if we lose...what does it matter?
because we will not lose each week
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 PJ would be this like you saying the other week when vikes at 1-3, that the "D" was putting up good numbers and you were "not worried", and because the "D" on vikes ranked #3 all ok , and we shouldn't just take the "D' numbers with a grain of salt...: )
I think that kinda validates his point. His D was good, but they still couldn't win games.
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin I think that kinda validates his point. His D was good, but they still couldn't win games.
and he got mad when that exactpoint was made- and he thought his "D' playing well did validate the vikes would turn it around my point.. taking a 180 approach now, just found funny
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 and he got mad when that exactpoint was made- and he thought his "D' playing well did validate the vikes would turn it around my point.. taking a 180 approach now, just found funny
1) No one should ever get mad at a message board. Honestly, that's laughable.
2) If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times if you would like to discuss the Vikings there is a Rival Board to do so. Start a thread & ask me to respond to it nicely & we can discuss Viking football to your heart's content. I do not believe this is the place to discuss the Vikings.
3) I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. Proof read your posts, man! I'm not your 3rd grade grammar teacher! Type your points or arguments so people can understand them or don't type anything at all.
Last edited by purplejokr; 10-26-2010 at 05:42 AM.
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Originally Posted by
purplejokr There is no reason to panic after two games. The defense is playing pretty well. By all intents and purposes, the Vikings should have won one of their first two, perhaps, even be 2-0. Defensively, with only 3 CBs, mind you, the defense is only allowing 30 first downs and 21 points over two games. There are some disturbing passing numbers and they don't look as stout against the run but ultimately a defense is measured by how many points they surrender. I'll take 10.5 points a game every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Just trying to figure why good "D' numbers mean Vikes "fine" after week 2 ( despite 0-2)and no reason to panick, but for bears good "D' numbers meaningless( despite being 4-3 and could be 6-1 if not for called back winning td's to use your 'woulda coulda) and need to be taken with a grain of salt on Bears...and being 2nd in league in not allowing points needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but on vikes its a good indiction of no panick and you take it every day of week and twice on sunday's and something to hang hat on.
Originally Posted by
purplejokr Thankfully, there is more to football than a single's players play. Peterson has looked phenomenal. The defense is looking phenomenal.
Last edited by dabears54; 10-26-2010 at 06:06 AM.
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SD and NO's are both 1 and 3 respectively in D, but in scoring they are below 15. We are at least 7. Yards don't matter though. SD is tops in total O also, and passing. It's TD's that matter, and our D is not top 5, but in top 10, but the O is 22nd. Which means we are not going to win a lot of games. NE, Philly and the Jets are all top 10 in scoring.
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