Thread: Bears on verge of unraveling?

Originally Posted by dabears54

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first 4 weeks:

84 rushes, 147 pass 62% pass 38% rush

Couple questions.

Does the pass plays include the times that Cutler was sacked, as those were passing plays?

How about when Jay is "rushing" because he is running for his life. Where are those? They should be in the pass portion, as they were passing plays.

Either way, that is horrible balance.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Couple questions.

Does the pass plays include the times that Cutler was sacked, as those were passing plays?

How about when Jay is "rushing" because he is running for his life. Where are those? They should be in the pass portion, as they were passing plays.

Either way, that is horrible balance.

i you feel like going through each play to each game to figure the scrambles.. have at it.. like all 32 teams i'm just doing by the plays listed as pass/rush

And as said in today's NFL of 'Flag football and touching the WR= pass interfernce.. high 50's and low 40's is the ratio most teams want... So disagree 62/38% is "horrible"... its just Ok and would rather see a 58/42 combo

no argument from me the 70's way too high and horrible, but not 62%

Originally Posted by dabears54

while do not think 'fair" to just ignore a game

take the panther game out and its 63%- 37%( 19 pass and 42 rush in panthers game)

In a scientific experiment it would be ignored as an annomaly, where the control of the experiment [Collins instead of Cutler] was comprimised.

Originally Posted by dabears54

i you feel like going through each play to each game to figure the scrambles.. have at it.. like all 32 teams i'm just doing by the plays listed as pass/rush

And as said in today's NFL of 'Flag football and touching the WR= pass interfernce.. high 50's and low 40's is the ratio most teams want... So disagree 62/38% is "horrible"... its just Ok and would rather see a 58/42 combo

no argument from me the 70's way too high and horrible, but not 62%

Well, its quite simple to do. Put Cutlers "rushes" into the pass play catagory (all but the one QB sneak and fumble he did Sunday) and take that out of the rushing catagory. Add in the 20 some sacks he got into the passing catagory and you are probably closer to that 70-30 mark.

But close to two thirds of the plays going as passes is horrible. If its not, then no one can complain that the Bears do not run enough.

In all 5 1/2 games Cutler played

181 pass attempts
plus
15 rushes
27 sacks
(adds up to 42 extra pass plays (took out the one QB sack))

223 passing plays.
add in Collin's pass plays (27)
And Hanie's (7)

that gives us 257 passing plays

Look at the rushing game now.

141 Rushes

90 by Forte
44 Taylor
4 Hester
1 Cutler
1 Hanie
1 Knox

That gives us a 257-141 ratio overall for the season. Thats 398 total plays

That means it is about 65% passing plays to 35% rushing plays for all Bears QBs

Take out the game where they had to do nothing but run because Collins couldn't throw a ball to save his life, and the percentages are drastically different.

nd what are the ratio's let's say for indy, saints and packers..benj

thanks!

Originally Posted by dabears54

nd what are the ratio's let's say for indy, saints and packers..benj

thanks!

Do I care? I don't follow those teams.

If you want to wait, because my break is almost over and I have to leave my computer soon, I can give it to you later tonight or sometime tomorrow.

But quick stats, without adding in sacks and QB scrambles

Indy 254-154
Pack 236-157
Saints 287-166

Bears have the second most pass plays and lowest rush plays

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Do I care? I don't follow those teams.

If you want to wait, because my break is almost over and I have to leave my computer soon, I can give it to you later tonight or sometime tomorrow.

But quick stats, without adding in sacks and QB scrambles

Indy 254-154
Pack 236-157
Saints 287-166

Bears have the second most pass plays and lowest rush plays

So manning has 10 rushes and 16 sacks.. making the ratio 68% pass 32 % rush

packers rodgers 14 sacks and 26 rushes.. making it 70% pass and 30% rush

saints brees 11 sacks 9 rushes- making it 68% pass 32 % rush

So that "That means it is about 65% passing plays to 35% rushing plays for all Bears QBs"

hmmmmmmm all all these OC's off their rocker? or is the NFL changing?



saints

Originally Posted by dabears54

and while think 77% obviously too high facing the 31st and 32nd ranked passing D"s you SHOULD be unbalanced to tak adavantage to that weakness, right?

And what did that advantage get us? 2 losses.