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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    So when bill bellichek says the same thing each week in his pressers- and the team does the opposite, why doesn't anyone complain? or call him on it.. or when he puts his whole team on the "doubtful list"..

    The league 'forces" them to do the presser, and they can't remain silent( even though you know they want to)- so they do the next best and say the same..

    And guess we just differ in that WE BOTH KNOW what theya re going to say, and yet somehow you complain and are suprised they do it? even though you say know they will?.. Guess just seems a waste to me
    PS - I think he's been to some Super Bowls too, if my coach were winning like that he could come out and sing showtunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Goggles View Post
    It's lies

    "We have to run more. Find balance."
    44 passes 16 rushes
    ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR FAIL

    And as far as Bellichek goes this isn't DaPats.com I could give a flying doodie squiggle what that skank in a hoodie says about anything. Do you think I spend an iota of time watching a Pats press conference? I'm talking about our team and the mismanagement and poor communication that seems to be running rampant throughout.

    We gonna run, we gotta run, it's essential to run.

    *GAMEDAY* - everyone turns to Martz

    Martz: PASS!
    Ok so you KNOW they will LIE and yet each week you will still be "shocked" about it and complain about it?

    Ok,, to each his own

    Just don't see the purpose of it.. but can't ddebate it anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Goggles View Post
    PS - I think he's been to some Super Bowls too, if my coach were winning like that he could come out and sing showtunes.
    So its not the lying, or what martz is saying- its not winning the Suprbowl.. now getting to the real bottom. : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    So its not the lying, or what martz is saying- its not winning the Suprbowl.. now getting to the real bottom. : )
    Why does anyone play the game? Few would never admit but I'm sure personal wealth and HOF status, but most of the NFL plays to say they are champions at some point.

    As a fan, all I'm saying is don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. I understand you have to keep it "PC" and give us vanilla answers, but don't talk about how you know you need to improve and here's where we need to improve and then do nothing in those areas to improve. Lovie is the master of the well we were 3-1 in that quarter of the season, yeah but you're record is 7-9 who cares.

    Just frustrating because I see glances and feel we have some decent talents but hate to see us waste a former Pro Bowl QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Goggles View Post
    Why does anyone play the game? Few would never admit but I'm sure personal wealth and HOF status, but most of the NFL plays to say they are champions at some point.

    As a fan, all I'm saying is don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. I understand you have to keep it "PC" and give us vanilla answers, but don't talk about how you know you need to improve and here's where we need to improve and then do nothing in those areas to improve. Lovie is the master of the well we were 3-1 in that quarter of the season, yeah but you're record is 7-9 who cares.

    Just frustrating because I see glances and feel we have some decent talents but hate to see us waste a former Pro Bowl QB.
    And guess in life- i've learned to not be fustrated or waste anymore time being fustrated at things I can't control or will not change. As a fan KNOW they give PC BS answers and never give it anymroe thought or waste time becuase KNOw its coming.

    And as said they are FORCED to give answers or get fined so this is their compromise,, do i like it? Nope.. but its not changing so just shrug shoulders and move on

    just fund it funny "IF" they are winning SuperbowlS, then the PC lying you don't mind as you said, but you HATE IT when not winning..

    So tells me never about the PC lying, just fustrated( like all of us) at being 4-3, and Using this as an 'excuse" to vent

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    And guess in life- i've learned to not be fustrated or waste anymore time being fustrated at things I can't control or will not change. As a fan KNOW they give PC BS answers and never give it anymroe thought or waste time becuase KNOw its coming.

    And as said they are FORCED to give answers or get fined so this is their compromise,, do i like it? Nope.. but its not changing so just shrug shoulders and move on

    just fund it funny "IF" they are winning SuperbowlS, then the PC lying you don't mind as you said, but you HATE IT when not winning..

    So tells me never about the PC lying, just fustrated( like all of us) at being 4-3, and Using this as an 'excuse" to vent
    If they say we need to run the ball more and go out the next week and SUCCESSFULLY execute the offense and win with the pass easily that's a different story. I chalk that up to ok yeah they must have seen something that they could exploit. However when you appear to not have a clue what you're doing and be close to dead last in the NFL with a former Pro Bowl QB you can't just keep telling the fans yeeeeaaaah it's balance see.

    As I said I understand the PC just don't tell us something you have no interest in doing.

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    If only the Bears would run the ball the way they run their mouths

    Please, someone ask Jon Stewart if he can switch to Halas Hall for the site of his “Rally To Restore Sanity.’’

    I mean, Washington, D.C., is a Mensa meeting compared to the lunatic words and actions in Lake Forest.

    Mike Martz, f’rinstance, is back to being Chance the gardner in “Being There.’’ For those of you who didn’t take a cinema class in college (where do you think “Mickey Mouse’’ courses got that nickname?), Peter Sellers earned an Oscar nomination for his role as a simpleton who speaks silly things he heard on television and gets mistaken for profound as he is embraced by the administration.

    The Bears have to run the ball more, Chance the offensive coordinator said Wednesday, just like he heard his coach say on television Monday. Martz has said this regularly on Wednesdays, and then called more than 40 pass plays on Sunday. This, mind you, comes a week after he called 47 passes compared to 12 runs in a loss and later said the Bears need to run the ball more. You think? And who is exactly is the guy in charge of making those calls?

    Crazy, I’m telling you. But no matter what he says about balance, Martz is addicted to throwing the ball, passing is the crack of his offense, and nobody has staged an intervention.

    Martz is only allowed to speak publicly once a week, and we’re seeing why. He blathered this week about his top receivers, Devin Hester and Johnny Knox, and this was after both of them gave up on plays and refused to fight to keep an interception out of a defender’s hands.

    And as for that defender, Washington’s DeAngelo Hall just flat guessed against the Bears. That’s Martz’s excuse for Hall’s intercepting Jay Cutler four times in the second half. Four times he guessed right against the Bears for interceptions? Guessed? Cutler threw two stupid lollipop passes that Hall picked off. Listen, pal, nobody has to guess that Cutler will make some stupid passes.

    The other two picks came when Hall jumped routes. Did he guess, or has Martz’s complex offense and his apparent inability to coach it to respectability given opponents all kinds of clues about which play is coming and who the ball is coming to? The Bears can’t block consistently when they max protect, so they are under siege with every other scheme, which means Cutler has to throw quickly or turn into Chip Diller --- “Thank you, sir, may I have another’’ --- so there’s not a lot of guesswork when Hester and Knox make one move. That’s all the Bears offense has time for if an opponent blitzes.

    And another thing: If Martz is so convinced that Hall was guessing, why didn’t he call plays that took advantage of that?

    What’s worse, Martz’s crazy virus is contagious. Cutler said the Bears know they have things to “clean up’’ offensively during the bye week, then Cutler didn’t throw in Wednesday’s practice. Yeah, who needs practice when the timing between quarterback and receivers is so good already? So Bears. So crazy. I mean, if Cutler’s on the sidelines, what are you working on? Concussion testing?

    Cutler said the Bears “are going to address (their problems) this week." Really? A week is enough time to fix the third-worst offense in the league? The worst third-down offense, and worst by a lot? The most sacks and most interceptions in the NFL? The second-worst red zone offense? Really? A week? Not even a week, not with Cutler sitting out a day. I’m telling you, Martz’s strain of lunacy is spreading.

    Cutler has been bad, but he’s less guilty of crimes against good football than Martz. Cutler is executing what his coach calls, while Martz is calling crazy games. However you want to divvy up the blame, the Bears’ two most important offensive figures can’t seem to recognize and then play the game that’s there.

    More lunacy: General Manager Jerry Angelo said it’s not talent that you need on the offensive line, it’s cohesiveness. Well, first of all, you need talent. I’d start at general manager, but that’s not the Bears’ way. Second, Chris Williams shows what happens when you have a lot more money than ability. And if it’s all about cohesiveness, how come Angelo’s Bears are now working on their fifth starting line combination after seven games?

    But the most insane part of all is this: The Bears have converted only five of their last 50 third downs, none of their 10 chances at the goal line, have a coach who does not understand the concept of the challenge flag, and they’re 4-3 and in first place. In. Sane.

    Crazier still, with Green Bay putting its entire roster on injured reserve and Brett Favre working as a double agent in Minnesota, the Bears can win this division despite themselves. But if they had any foresight and rational thinking, they would ratchet down the offense, run the ball to rest the outstanding defense, and win enough games in a cruddy conference to gain a bye in the playoffs.

    Could happen. Could. Don’t you dare tell me I’m crazy after you’ve heard and read what Bears folks are saying. The Bears need a reality check. A reality drive-thru, at least. Something, anything more than the usual game plan of big talk and little action.

    Restore sanity or call Nurse Ratched to have someone alert the ward it’s medication time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Goggles View Post
    PS - I think he's been to some Super Bowls too, if my coach were winning like that he could come out and sing showtunes.
    Lovie has been doing a song and dance ever since he's been here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Goggles View Post
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    If only the Bears would run the ball the way they run their mouths

    Please, someone ask Jon Stewart if he can switch to Halas Hall for the site of his “Rally To Restore Sanity.’’

    I mean, Washington, D.C., is a Mensa meeting compared to the lunatic words and actions in Lake Forest.

    Mike Martz, f’rinstance, is back to being Chance the gardner in “Being There.’’ For those of you who didn’t take a cinema class in college (where do you think “Mickey Mouse’’ courses got that nickname?), Peter Sellers earned an Oscar nomination for his role as a simpleton who speaks silly things he heard on television and gets mistaken for profound as he is embraced by the administration.

    The Bears have to run the ball more, Chance the offensive coordinator said Wednesday, just like he heard his coach say on television Monday. Martz has said this regularly on Wednesdays, and then called more than 40 pass plays on Sunday. This, mind you, comes a week after he called 47 passes compared to 12 runs in a loss and later said the Bears need to run the ball more. You think? And who is exactly is the guy in charge of making those calls?

    Crazy, I’m telling you. But no matter what he says about balance, Martz is addicted to throwing the ball, passing is the crack of his offense, and nobody has staged an intervention.

    Martz is only allowed to speak publicly once a week, and we’re seeing why. He blathered this week about his top receivers, Devin Hester and Johnny Knox, and this was after both of them gave up on plays and refused to fight to keep an interception out of a defender’s hands.

    And as for that defender, Washington’s DeAngelo Hall just flat guessed against the Bears. That’s Martz’s excuse for Hall’s intercepting Jay Cutler four times in the second half. Four times he guessed right against the Bears for interceptions? Guessed? Cutler threw two stupid lollipop passes that Hall picked off. Listen, pal, nobody has to guess that Cutler will make some stupid passes.

    The other two picks came when Hall jumped routes. Did he guess, or has Martz’s complex offense and his apparent inability to coach it to respectability given opponents all kinds of clues about which play is coming and who the ball is coming to? The Bears can’t block consistently when they max protect, so they are under siege with every other scheme, which means Cutler has to throw quickly or turn into Chip Diller --- “Thank you, sir, may I have another’’ --- so there’s not a lot of guesswork when Hester and Knox make one move. That’s all the Bears offense has time for if an opponent blitzes.

    And another thing: If Martz is so convinced that Hall was guessing, why didn’t he call plays that took advantage of that?

    What’s worse, Martz’s crazy virus is contagious. Cutler said the Bears know they have things to “clean up’’ offensively during the bye week, then Cutler didn’t throw in Wednesday’s practice. Yeah, who needs practice when the timing between quarterback and receivers is so good already? So Bears. So crazy. I mean, if Cutler’s on the sidelines, what are you working on? Concussion testing?

    Cutler said the Bears “are going to address (their problems) this week." Really? A week is enough time to fix the third-worst offense in the league? The worst third-down offense, and worst by a lot? The most sacks and most interceptions in the NFL? The second-worst red zone offense? Really? A week? Not even a week, not with Cutler sitting out a day. I’m telling you, Martz’s strain of lunacy is spreading.

    Cutler has been bad, but he’s less guilty of crimes against good football than Martz. Cutler is executing what his coach calls, while Martz is calling crazy games. However you want to divvy up the blame, the Bears’ two most important offensive figures can’t seem to recognize and then play the game that’s there.

    More lunacy: General Manager Jerry Angelo said it’s not talent that you need on the offensive line, it’s cohesiveness. Well, first of all, you need talent. I’d start at general manager, but that’s not the Bears’ way. Second, Chris Williams shows what happens when you have a lot more money than ability. And if it’s all about cohesiveness, how come Angelo’s Bears are now working on their fifth starting line combination after seven games?

    But the most insane part of all is this: The Bears have converted only five of their last 50 third downs, none of their 10 chances at the goal line, have a coach who does not understand the concept of the challenge flag, and they’re 4-3 and in first place. In. Sane.

    Crazier still, with Green Bay putting its entire roster on injured reserve and Brett Favre working as a double agent in Minnesota, the Bears can win this division despite themselves. But if they had any foresight and rational thinking, they would ratchet down the offense, run the ball to rest the outstanding defense, and win enough games in a cruddy conference to gain a bye in the playoffs.

    Could happen. Could. Don’t you dare tell me I’m crazy after you’ve heard and read what Bears folks are saying. The Bears need a reality check. A reality drive-thru, at least. Something, anything more than the usual game plan of big talk and little action.

    Restore sanity or call Nurse Ratched to have someone alert the ward it’s medication time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Ok so you KNOW they will LIE and yet each week you will still be "shocked" about it and complain about it?

    Ok,, to each his own

    Just don't see the purpose of it.. but can't ddebate it anymore

    They have lied to us for how many straight weeks about needing to find balance? How many weeks in a row has Martz said we need to run more and has lied about it?

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