Thread: JA: Talent more Important than Need/Drafting OL

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

we have no idea how the Gaines Adams deal would have played out. for all we know he could have been the next Julius peppers, or the next Mark Anderson.

and why would you trade up if your money in later rounds?? cough up big money on high draft picks that have a record of not working out?? or like any poker player or athlete you play to your strengths, which fo JA actually works out BETTER, cause he lands top round talent at a late round price, freeing up cap space to pay those players like briggs, aquire FA's like pep, taylor... Ect.

I feel like everyone is taking a knee jerk, one dimensional approach to how they view the bears. Nobody like's a homer who only see's the positive, and nobody likes trying to talk football with people who are just hell bent on hating every facet of this team from top to bottom.

it' bugs me to no end. I'm all about talking about the flaws, but when nobody want's to acknowledge the positives we DO have... it just get's to be so old and worn out... I hate to use cliche's but.... you guys really are beating a dead horse with the gloom and doom day in... and day out.

You don't need to trade up to break the bank but once in a while I would not mind seeing Angleo trade up to get a player we could use now instead of putting on the practice squad or special teams. The jets are a team that constantly trades up to get players and some pan out real well. Why does Angleo constantly draft DL players and neglect other positions? Why give up 2 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and Kyle Orton for Jay Cutler if you are not going to invest players that will help the offense? I would say Orton has done will with the talent he has around him yet Jay has no tallent or inexperienced talent.

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

Elaborate.

just look at the drafts. JA falls in love with athleticism over actual on field results. Lets look at the Chris Williams draft. He was drafted cause of athleticism despite bad back, short arms, known for being soft, damn rbs could bench press more then him etc.... Guys on the field showed up better in college like Baker, Alberts, nicks. If he practiced what he preached he would have picked Mendenhall instead of big softie. Lets look at Olsen draft. Look at Olsen college accomplishments pure crap. Look at Zach Miller college accomplishments they were great. We pick Olsen of course why? He ran a better 40 time. Personally I wanted a LG-Blalock- but that isnt the point the point is on talent base Miller was always better so if want a TE why didnt they draft Miller? Oh and Miller can block and catch the ball novel idea for a te.

since that covers around where the Bears have collapsed as a team I dont think I need to go further then that. He doesnt practice what he preaches. Further proof without looking at the crap drafts we have is why are we such big players in free agency every year? Cause drafting isnt there.

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

we have no idea how the Gaines Adams deal would have played out. for all we know he could have been the next Julius peppers, or the next Mark Anderson.

and why would you trade up if your money in later rounds?? cough up big money on high draft picks that have a record of not working out?? or like any poker player or athlete you play to your strengths, which fo JA actually works out BETTER, cause he lands top round talent at a late round price, freeing up cap space to pay those players like briggs, aquire FA's like pep, taylor... Ect.

I feel like everyone is taking a knee jerk, one dimensional approach to how they view the bears. Nobody like's a homer who only see's the positive, and nobody likes trying to talk football with people who are just hell bent on hating every facet of this team from top to bottom.

it' bugs me to no end. I'm all about talking about the flaws, but when nobody want's to acknowledge the positives we DO have... it just get's to be so old and worn out... I hate to use cliche's but.... you guys really are beating a dead horse with the gloom and doom day in... and day out.

more players instead of less player more talent doesnt work. The further down you go in the draft the more of a crap shoot it gets. Those are your special teams rounds and seldom there is that diamond in the rough and its awesome when you get one. But you cant rely on that. Look at Pitts they have the same money situation our team has. They dont rely on FA cause of bad ass drafting. They move up and arent scared in the investment. Why? They trust who is drafting. If you dont trust the person drafting yup I wouldnt want a 1 rounder lol. But come on you have to have at least a 50-50 effect in the first round not an entire list of busts.

well believe what you want and others will believe what they want. I know what I want my favorite team to emulate and I love how Steelers are run. That is who I compare my team to. And to me we are far away from what they do

Originally Posted by motownbear

Guys on the field showed up better in college like Baker, Alberts, nicks.

LMFAO at this "fact". CWill's two sacks given up at LT over his final two seasons is better than any of them. Baker was injured, had the worst offseason of any OT in that draft and is having a downright hilariously awful '10 season. Albert always had the question of whether he could hang at LT because he only started one season there, and has been near the bottom of the league pass pro index at LT every years thus far in his career. Nicks just simply was not a first round talent and had some major off the field issues surrounding him as well as work ethic questions. Yeah, clearly they were and are all so much better.