Thread: Who was it again that said Earl Bennett was going to be good? oh yeah.. ME!

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

KO and 3 picks(2 firsts) was a TON, and guess what, when we traded for cutler the same could have been said, shitty D no run support made him have to throw a lot which padded his stats. KO is looking like a solid qb, and his primary WR just tied a record w/Jerry Rice for 1100 yards and 19ypc; it's not the dink and dunk kid we knew here. Their O and specifically KO is not their problem; a stupid HC, and a horrid D is thier problem.
I like having cutler, but looking at some of the young qb talent out there, Flacco, Mccoy, Stafford, the kid in SF, STl, and TB(forgot their names), I think we could have kept our picks(ecpsecially if we had just taken Flacco) and been just as good as we are now...but w/more young O talent around him(maybe some OL or wr's). This team has glaring weakness b/c of the picks we lost(not so much KO) and this run once we get to the playoffs is going to get REAL tough b/c of them.

Now back to the real reason about this....well Nerrad, like many said, if you shift through enough trash your bound to find a gem. And you also said Rex was a good qb; he's still not....

Actually Ric it was primarily KO and the two firsts since we got a 5th rounder (Knox) in exchange for our 3rd. I think we can all agree he's been worth every bit of that and a bag of chips. I consider his kick return and receiving skills in combination to be worth at least as much as the 2nd round pick we spent on Hester. I'm not saying that he's as much of a difference maker as Hester has been but I am saying that I believe we got the equivalent of a 2nd round talent in the 5th round. Kudos to the scouting staff on that one.

I agree with you that Orton is a much better passer now than he ever was in Chicago and to large degree he has McDaniels to thank for that. Belichik Jr. may not know his head from his ass as a head coach, and his handling of player relations leaves a lot to be desired, but he does know his stuff when it comes to developing QB's. Orton has also had much better play calling and better receivers here than he did in Chicago. Especially now that Brandon Lloyd is finally playing at the level many expected him too when he came into the league.

Still, I'm sticking with my opinion that Kyle Orton will never take the Broncos through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and I think that Cutler not only can, but eventually will. Maybe the trade was one 1st rounder too much but I'll still take what we got out of the trade over what the Broncos did. Those two firsts haven't done a damn thing to improve their defense or help to mount an effective running game so far.

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

KO and Two first rounders for what Equals Knox and Cutler?...

you can Keep Shane Falco.... Gimme Cutler.

Can we get Falco for a backup? He's gotta be better than Collins! LOL

Originally Posted by GrizzlyBear91

KO and Two first rounders for what Equals Knox and Cutler?...

you can Keep Shane Falco.... Gimme Cutler.

Ya all Flacco has done(in less time in the league) has gone to 5 playoff games and 3 of them, has basically the same ypa, comp %, yards and has more TD's and less int's...why the hell would you want a guy like that...who would have only cost you ONE 1st rounder over 2 firsts a 3rd and a player.

Originally Posted by soulman

Actually Ric it was primarily KO and the two firsts since we got a 5th rounder (Knox) in exchange for our 3rd. I think we can all agree he's been worth every bit of that and a bag of chips. I consider his kick return and receiving skills in combination to be worth at least as much as the 2nd round pick we spent on Hester. I'm not saying that he's as much of a difference maker as Hester has been but I am saying that I believe we got the equivalent of a 2nd round talent in the 5th round. Kudos to the scouting staff on that one.

I agree with you that Orton is a much better passer now than he ever was in Chicago and to large degree he has McDaniels to thank for that. Belichik Jr. may not know his head from his ass as a head coach, and his handling of player relations leaves a lot to be desired, but he does know his stuff when it comes to developing QB's. Orton has also had much better play calling and better receivers here than he did in Chicago. Especially now that Brandon Lloyd is finally playing at the level many expected him too when he came into the league.

Still, I'm sticking with my opinion that Kyle Orton will never take the Broncos through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and I think that Cutler not only can, but eventually will. Maybe the trade was one 1st rounder too much but I'll still take what we got out of the trade over what the Broncos did. Those two firsts haven't done a damn thing to improve their defense or help to mount an effective running game so far.

Getting a team to a SB is not a single player issue; If the Bronco's had any sort of a D or a running game they would be in a serious playoff hunt. But their HC is a moron and they will continue to struggle. Conversly what did Cutler do w/a bad coach, no D or run support last year? He also was not capbale of a playoff or SB run...w/that he is now....I think KO is proving he could be in the same situation also. The Bronco's choosing poorly w/thos pics doesn't justify what we lost in them...and Knox could have been picked up by us w/or w/out their 5th in return so he's a moot point(if we have our 3rd we could have taken him w/our 4th or 5th).