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I'm very comfortable with our position at safety now that he's back. If we just clear up the cornerback positions, or just use more bump and run tactic rather than playing seven-to-ten yards off the line of scrimmage, we'd be much better off.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
You answered your own question mo. The whole idea of personnel management should be to keep your best players unless you're certain that you have an adequate or better replacement. We didn't regardless of Lovie's manlove for Archuleta and that's the end of that story.
We've needed safety help for three year since he left yet you seem to be saying that we were right to get rid of him. How'd that work out for us as opposed to how it's working out now. Sorry pal I just can't agree with you on this one.

you dont have to agree but it is there every week to see he is a marginal safety. Not my fault our player personel department sucks at replacing players. Like I said if the trade off of Harris was for Payne/Arch of course I would not be on board-not a fan of either. But if they made a legit effort to replace him you are telling me after getting burned time and again you still wanted him as a fixture on the defense?
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Originally Posted by
motownbear
you dont have to agree but it is there every week to see he is a marginal safety. Not my fault our player personel department sucks at replacing players. Like I said if the trade off of Harris was for Payne/Arch of course I would not be on board-not a fan of either. But if they made a legit effort to replace him you are telling me after getting burned time and again you still wanted him as a fixture on the defense?
Mo maybe I just don't see him getting burned time and again. What I see is a heady ballplayer who both gets and causes turnovers, the main component to the success of the "Lovie Smith Patented Bend But Don't Break Cover-2 Defense". It's true that he still lacks range but his experience and instincts tend to make up for that in my opinion.
I guess a lot of what I'm going on is that the last time we didn't have to worry about our safety play was in the Super-Bowl year when we went 15-3 before Indy trashed us in the "Show". We then trade Harris and for 3 seasons the D suffers and you and all the rest of the guys here (myself included) scream for some help at safety. Hell all of the draft talk last spring seemd to be about which safety would fall to us in the 3rd. So we draft Wright and get Harris back via trade and low and behold we're 11-4 and locked into 2nd seed in the playoffs.
Which would you rather have mo? Two conference championship seasons and an NFC crown with Chris Harris or three .500 seasons without him. You see him as marginal and I see a guy who's a playmaker and with whom we win games. Personally, I think it's as simple as that!
Last edited by soulman; 12-30-2010 at 03:59 PM.
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I'm sold w/our safeties as long as our pass rush holds up. I believe to an extent that w/o Peppers we are having the discussion about starting Wright and moving Harris to SS.
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Chris Harris is a big part of the reason this team is poised to make a run for the Super Bowl. He was obviously a good enough in 2006, and he's as good now as he was then, despite not having Mike Brown to serve as a turnover machine way back deep in coverage.
The safety position is not as strong as it was four and five years ago; no one is pretending that it is. Mike Brown was a great player, but unfortunately didn't stay healthy, and I believe that he is either out of the league or is still with the Kansas City Chiefs playing down on their depth chart. The safety position definitely sucked once Archuleta was added to the fold; he could cover my 83 year old grandmother if she were going deep. Chris Harris has weak spots in his game, but he has made the most of his opportunities and has managed to make several big plays, creating turnovers, and he has started taking better pursuit angles to compensate for this perceived lack of range he has.