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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetsfan115 View Post
    FYI , while i think it was a bad decision to make at that point in the game, your D still didn't stop it. Sanchez made a perfect throw in good coverage and our WR just dropped it. Had he held on, the play would have worked
    I love playing the "if" game. If Forte didn't have 100 yards or more rushing, the Bears might have lost. If Cutler didn't throw 3 TDs in the 3rd quarter, the Bears might have lost. There are so many possibilities with the "if" game, it's just so much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    bears knew the while time it was coming.

    And the Jets’ decision to fake punt in that situation — be it by Ryan or Westhoff or both — put too much importance on one play. Why risk it all when leading on the road? Moreover, the Jets didn’t just signal their intention, they may as well have unfurled a giant FAKE PUNT banner or put Sanchez in shiny rhinestones and Santonio Holmes in flashing neon.
    ‘‘Everybody knew it was a fake,’’ Davis said.
    ‘‘Everybody at home knew it was a fake, shoot.’’

    It helps when it is that obvious,’’ Davis said.

    ‘‘You just have to diagnose and figure out what is happening and what they are trying to do to us. You follow your rules, and Dave Toub does a great job in giving us solid rules to go by.’’

    Toub, the Bears special-teams coordinator, went back to last season and found tape of things the Jets and Westhoff were doing. Davis said the Bears study tape of their opponent from this season, but with Toub watching ‘‘triple or quadruple’’ the amount of tape his players do, they were prepared.

    The Bears yelled “fake’’ before the attempt.


    http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...ake-davis.html
    everyone knew it was coming with sanchez in the backfield. they shoulda went with brad smith and gave him the run/throw option. smith is always out on coverage teams so it wouldn't have been obvious. My point was simple. the original poster gave the DB props for breaking up the pass when he didn't break it up and never touched the ball. it was just dropped by the jets WR

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWinBaby View Post
    I love playing the "if" game. If Forte didn't have 100 yards or more rushing, the Bears might have lost. If Cutler didn't throw 3 TDs in the 3rd quarter, the Bears might have lost. There are so many possibilities with the "if" game, it's just so much fun.
    I don't play the IF game. i gave you guys credit for the win. I didn't even point out how the jets basically killed themselves all game. at the end of the day a win is a win. my only point was the original poster gave the DB props for breaking up the pass when he didn't break it up and never touched the ball. it was just dropped by the jets WR. Just saying you can't give props to a player for making a ply he never made lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustWinBaby View Post
    I love playing the "if" game. If Forte didn't have 100 yards or more rushing, the Bears might have lost. If Cutler didn't throw 3 TDs in the 3rd quarter, the Bears might have lost. There are so many possibilities with the "if" game, it's just so much fun.
    I think he's pointing out that the bears didn't stop that play, the Jets screwed it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetsfan115 View Post
    everyone knew it was coming with sanchez in the backfield. they shoulda went with brad smith and gave him the run/throw option. smith is always out on coverage teams so it wouldn't have been obvious. My point was simple. the original poster gave the DB props for breaking up the pass when he didn't break it up and never touched the ball. it was just dropped by the jets WR



    I don't play the IF game. i gave you guys credit for the win. I didn't even point out how the jets basically killed themselves all game. at the end of the day a win is a win. my only point was the original poster gave the DB props for breaking up the pass when he didn't break it up and never touched the ball. it was just dropped by the jets WR. Just saying you can't give props to a player for making a ply he never made lol
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201012...ts@bears/watch

    2:50.. i'm not sure how you say Davis had nothing to do with play, he is drapped on the WR, which probably helped with the drop its not like he's wide open and dropped it.. and while it 'looked" like first down distance, depending on spot and where tackled it was close

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201012...ts@bears/watch

    2:50.. i'm not sure how you say Davis had nothing to do with play, he is drapped on the WR, which probably helped with the drop its not like he's wide open and dropped it.. and while it 'looked" like first down distance, depending on spot and where tackled it was close
    Um, Davis didn't touch him until he had dropped the ball. Not sure what replay you are watching, but I watched it 3 times and it's obvious that he didn't cause the drop at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinddeafmute View Post
    Um, Davis didn't touch him until he had dropped the ball. Not sure what replay you are watching, but I watched it 3 times and it's obvious that he didn't cause the drop at all.
    guess we shall agree to disagree- he is on his hip and someone like smith that has trouble catching balls and drops them when wide open and no one around, yes do think davis on his hip mattered, its why he's a returner not a WR for them. the ball is in his arms and davis arms around his back and stomache

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetsfan115 View Post
    FYI , while i think it was a bad decision to make at that point in the game, your D still didn't stop it. Sanchez made a perfect throw in good coverage and our WR just dropped it. Had he held on, the play would have worked
    Was reading MMQB by Peter King, and he actually made a point about just how difficult it is to kick out of bounds all the time. He talked to some of the greatest directional punters of all time and they all talked about just how perfect everything has to go to get the punt to land where you wanted it...I'm still not sure Ryan and their ST's coach necessarily wanted to punt to him; I'd be interested to see what they said if asked why they punted to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Was reading MMQB by Peter King, and he actually made a point about just how difficult it is to kick out of bounds all the time. He talked to some of the greatest directional punters of all time and they all talked about just how perfect everything has to go to get the punt to land where you wanted it...I'm still not sure Ryan and their ST's coach necessarily wanted to punt to him; I'd be interested to see what they said if asked why they punted to him.
    I was thinking about that too. Directional punting became a thing of the past when they developed the "ball point down" punt. there aren't many in the league that can do it at all. To assume that you can just ask the punter to kick it out of bounds and he will be able to do it everytime is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    Was reading MMQB by Peter King, and he actually made a point about just how difficult it is to kick out of bounds all the time. He talked to some of the greatest directional punters of all time and they all talked about just how perfect everything has to go to get the punt to land where you wanted it...I'm still not sure Ryan and their ST's coach necessarily wanted to punt to him; I'd be interested to see what they said if asked why they punted to him.
    on the punt that did go to hester was mis-hit- the punter had been instrructed to kick it out of bounds, according to his comments-but didn't get out of bounds on the one hester did return

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