Thread: Tice’s OL adjustments at heart of memorable s

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

I am not saying that tice is a bad coach but the way people are talking about him just makes me roll my eyes. If we posted this stuff on a neutral board we would get laughed at by non bear fans. This line is shit and it is not playing well because of tice.

So, what you're saying is that the reason it isn't playing well is because of Mike Tice? That's a load of bullshit, 4th. It helps when you don't have half decaying corpses and green-as-ivy rookies on the offensive line.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

I am not saying that tice is a bad coach but the way people are talking about him just makes me roll my eyes. If we posted this stuff on a neutral board we would get laughed at by non bear fans. This line is shit and it is not playing well because of tice.

You've got it backwards imo...this line is shit because they suck. But we're where we are IN SPITE of that BECAUSE OF Tice.

I'm not saying our OL is great by any means, but we also are seriously lacking in talent in spots, we have young players in spots, and we're old in spots. Our OL is patchwork and Tice deserves the credit for molding it into a playoff unit. I think you're seriously underestimating the job he's done.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

Martz is stubborn and so is Lovie Smith. When you QB is taking a beating it is not wise to keep playing him. When the OL can't block worth a crap someone has to step up and no matter what Tice does this line will not stop a blitz but a qb with have to roll out of the pocket or run for the first down. I would say we could have 20-30 more sacks if it were not for Jay Cutler scrambling. I will say some of the sacks are on jay but I saw way too many defensive players come in and hit Jay untouched. Last you don't have to have all areas of the team clicking to win games or make it to the superbowl and win. The ravens proved that 10 years ago with Trent Dilfer at qb. Our defense, offense and special teams during times of the year have won game for us but I would say that we are the second seed because of an easy schedule, defense and special teams.

If we make it to the Super Bowl, are you going to act like you're in agreement with Trent Dilfer and Mark Schlereth? If we make it to the Super Bowl, we will have earned every victory it will have taken on the way to the big game. I'm tired of all the excuses from people on this board as well as the mass media who say that everything we as a team have accomplished this year came strictly out of luck. What are people going to say if and when we slide in through the backdoor into the Super Bowl early next month? If we beat the Seahawks, people are going to say that it was the luck of the draw, and if we beat the Packers or the Falcons, they'll just say that they had off weeks. It's sickening, and I can't wait to go out and prove all the naysayers and anti-Bears pundits wrong.

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

The NFC is a toss up this year, teams like the vikings, cowboys and giants stunk it up. The saints struggled and both Brees and Eli Manning had bad years throwing the ball to the other team. We also played a bunch of teams that had a lot of injuries. If I told you we were going to play the vikings and they were going to start Joe Webb would you even give the vikings a chance on winning that game? How about Jimmy Clausin with the panthers who also have Steve Smith not playing that year along with losing their best DE? How about playing the dolphins who have a third string qb playing because the starter and back up got knocked out in the previous game? We won a game against the panthers while starting Todd Collins at QB who made Rex Grossmans monday night game against the cardinals look good. We also played the lions who started both a 2nd and 3rd string qb against us. This OL is bad no matter how people look at it. Tice did do some good things and where were a few bright moments the OL looked good but there are far darker moments where we got dominated and Jay took a beating or we got stuffed on the goal line.

I feel like we're in perfect position to make a run for the Super Bowl. When we get a chance to play and beat a good quarterback in Matt Hasselbeck and then, if we win that game, possibly a game against either Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan and win there, will we be able to say that we are flukes then?

Originally Posted by 4th and 26

Martz is stubborn and so is Lovie Smith. When you QB is taking a beating it is not wise to keep playing him. When the OL can't block worth a crap someone has to step up and no matter what Tice does this line will not stop a blitz but a qb with have to roll out of the pocket or run for the first down. I would say we could have 20-30 more sacks if it were not for Jay Cutler scrambling. I will say some of the sacks are on jay but I saw way too many defensive players come in and hit Jay untouched. Last you don't have to have all areas of the team clicking to win games or make it to the superbowl and win. The ravens proved that 10 years ago with Trent Dilfer at qb. Our defense, offense and special teams during times of the year have won game for us but I would say that we are the second seed because of an easy schedule, defense and special teams.

While I agree that you don't have to be dominant in every phase of the game to be a championship caliber team, poor line play (on either side of the ball) is not something a championship level team can get away with. You can only hide it for so long before it's exposed. The game of football is, and always has been, won on the line of scrimmage.

And to clarify, I'm not trying to say that the OL is the reason we're in the playoffs, you're misunderstanding me. My point was that you said our OL was the worst in the league...I just simply pointed out that we're in the playoffs with that line and Tice is the coach of that line. I think that should say something about the job he's done if we have "the worst line in the league" yet we've got a shot at a championship.