Thread: Mark Potash to Lovie: Win or else...

I don't like him; and I think he had everything fall his way this year. But for a team that was expected to be sub .500 he and his staff have done a good enough job if they get to another SB. The last 3 years are still hard to swallow, I'd be more comfortable letting this contract end and see how the season went next year honestly...but getting to the sb twice in a decade is impressive, twice in 5 years is even more so, even if the other years were mostly duds and deserves something.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

I don't like him; and I think he had everything fall his way this year. But for a team that was expected to be sub .500 he and his staff have done a good enough job if they get to another SB. The last 3 years are still hard to swallow, I'd be more comfortable letting this contract end and see how the season went next year honestly...but getting to the sb twice in a decade is impressive, twice in 5 years is even more so, even if the other years were mostly duds and deserves something.

The question everyone should be asking is Lovie responsible for our good year or the Assistant coaches responsible for the good year? I think a lot of factors should be considered before we give Lovie Smith the keys to chicago.

1) Mike Martz is good for chicago but when we struggle he gets thrown under the bus
2) Rod Marrinelli, is he really good or is it having Urlacher, J. peppers on this years team healthy?
3) Easy Schedule, We faced a lot of teams that were playing their 2nd and 3rd string qbs.
4) The bears stayed healthy this year and it seems more like the players are playing this year instead of just collecting a check
5) Jay Cutler connecting with his wrs seems to be a plus where last year it was force the ball to Olsen or play rookies
6) Matt Forte healthy and less turnover in the red zone.
7) Devin Hester back where he belongs, returning punts and shortening up the field.
8) Some of the favored teams in the NFC did poorly this year. Dallas, Vikings and packers did not do well yet the packers managed to make the playoffs as a wild card.

Originally Posted by Riczaj01

I don't like him; and I think he had everything fall his way this year. But for a team that was expected to be sub .500 he and his staff have done a good enough job if they get to another SB. The last 3 years are still hard to swallow, I'd be more comfortable letting this contract end and see how the season went next year honestly...but getting to the sb twice in a decade is impressive, twice in 5 years is even more so, even if the other years were mostly duds and deserves something.

DUD years are 4-12 3-13, 5-11... he hasn't done that since his rook year, YES 7-9 *is* dissapointing, but if that's the new "bottom" for this franchise, we could do alot worse. and let's face it.. 2008- one win in last game against texans( still looking for their first playoffs ever) from another playoff which would be 4 playoffs in 6 years and one win in 2009 or 2007 from 6 of 7 non losing seasons and 2 wins from not having a losing season since 2004... Which again while not the "best",, far, far away from the worst..and a complete 180 from the 1990's

lovie's 58 wins, 2nd in NFC( 1 win from first) and 5th over-all since 2005. if take a step back from the "personality" and just said would you want a coach with the best or 2nd best record in NFC last 5+ years...

I'm gonna save most of my comments on this until after the season is done. All I can reasonably commit to right now is that IF the Bears win the NFC Championship, and don't get hammered by the AFC champ in the Super Bowl, then I think the Bears should consider a one or two year extension with the proviso that the team not fall back like it did post 2006.

Although he has the undying support of his players I think that Lovie gets outcoached way too often and that he's among the worst game day tacticians in the NFL. His clock management is atrocious and he seems to be constantly in debate with himself over whether or not to challenge calls.

I'm not ready to give him any vote of confidence right now despite the winning season.

Originally Posted by dabears54

DUD years are 4-12 3-13, 5-11... he hasn't done that since his rook year, YES 7-9 *is* dissapointing, but if that's the new "bottom" for this franchise, we could do alot worse. and let's face it.. 2008- one win in last game against texans( still looking for their first playoffs ever) from another playoff which would be 4 playoffs in 6 years and one win in 2009 or 2007 from 6 of 7 non losing seasons and 2 wins from not having a losing season since 2004... Which again while not the "best",, far, far away from the worst..and a complete 180 from the 1990's

lovie's 58 wins, 2nd in NFC( 1 win from first) and 5th over-all since 2005. if take a step back from the "personality" and just said would you want a coach with the best or 2nd best record in NFC last 5+ years...

.500 seasons are never good seasons, and wonderfull he's the 5th winning coach; It'd be interesting to see who the top 10 are, and what their playaoff appearances look like compared to Lovie, b/c that is what really matters.

Lovie is not the best coach in the NFL. Anyone who says he is, is full of it.

Lovie is not the worst coach on the NFL. Anyone who says he is, is full of it.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Lovie is not the best coach in the NFL. Anyone who says he is, is full of it.

Lovie is not the worst coach on the NFL. Anyone who says he is, is full of it.

Lovie Smith is the worst coach in the NFL because most of the bad one have already been fired.