Thread: Gayle Sayers on mike/Mike 8:30 today.

There is a difference between baseball and football Dag.

The average lifespan of a NFL Running back is about 5-6 years. If in that span you are among the best, you are worthy of the hall.

The average lifespan of a MLB player is around 10-15 years. If in that span, for the majority of your career you are the best of the best you are worthy of the hall. Being among the best for five years, likely wont cut it for baseball.

Several players have a good couple of years and are not hall worthy. I am not saying he is not worthy, maybe he is. But comparing him to Sayers saying they were both among the best for the same portion of years is not a good argument.

You want a better comparison? How about Ron Santo. Best third baseman of his era, much like Sayers was in his. Santo is not in.

IN the interview, Sayers also seems to think that if Lovie loses, he will be fired. Yet one more example of how clueless he is...Lovie isnt going anywhere, when the Bears locked up a playoff spot and then a division title, that pretty much assured Lovie was going to return.

Talk to older guys and they'll usually agree Brian Piccolo was actually better.

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I'm going to say it right now and be brutally honest. Gale Sayers doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. He had four pretty strong seasons, and that's it. He didn't have a long career, never won any championships (for that matter, I don't think he ever played on by two winning teams, one in 1965 and the other in 1967). He was the most selfish player in the history of the Chicago Bears, and I don't think there is any doubt of that. I would normally never say this about a Bears' player, but Sayers just sucks.

Sayers deserves the HALL, he was so much better than anyone at the time- and the hall of fame is about what happened between te lines- which sayers deserves, 22 td's in 14 games? that's amazing and not frm the goaline. That he has become a self serving bitter old man had nothing to do with his accomplishmensts.. heck of that was true favre would never get get.. yeah his act old and tired, but you jsut tune him out now..

Originally Posted by Dagan81

Granted, Sayers averaged 5.0 yards per carry during his career, and he led the league in rushing on a couple of occasions. But playing all or only parts of seven seasons in the NFL doesn't make him Hall of Fame material in my book. If that's the case, why isn't Don Mattingly in Cooperstown right now when he was arguably the best all-around player in Major League Baseball between the years of 1984 and 1989? He hit .307 for his career, which was shortened because of debilitating back problems. He also hit 222 home runs, 1099 RBIs, won nine Gold Glove Awards, and has the highest fielding percentage of any first baseman in Major League Baseball history. Oh, and by the way, Donnie Baseball was the captain of the New York Yankees, so he was a consummate professional and team player.

It's simple. If Mattingly can't get into the Hall of Fame because he only played half of his career at an MVP/All-Star level, then Gale Sayers sure as hell doesn't deserve into the Hall of Fame.

football has ZERO to do with baseball and even less to do with yankee leg humping

Originally Posted by vmx12

Talk to older guys and they'll usually agree Brian Piccolo was actually better.

never have heard that. piccolo no where near the talent of sayers, sorry.. Maybe those people meant Pic a better person and most would agree with that, football talent? not even close

Not angry here at all. He is truly one of the greats