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Originally Posted by
dabears54 
said grant and finely the only big lossses for them already.. saying the other 13 players( as seen above) were not and more "hype" than like how some make it they lost 15 starters and will be so muhc better next year..becuase will have all these players back, id bet at least 50% or more not ven back with team, rest just depth.. and THAT isnt a big difference from 2010 to 2011 is the point
Missed that. My bad.
For the record, as we're all discussing this, we're all on the same side, that is, we love the Bears and want them to win. Some of us just see the Packers as being better than the Bears on O.
Let's be realistic and fair here, on O where do the Bears actually have an edge save running back?
QB? Not now, but Cutler could eventually be better than Rodgers. I believe Cutler has more raw skills than Rodgers.
O-line? Their o-line isn't that great, but ours is worse.
WRs? Theirs is arguably the best in the league.
TEs? Finley when healthy is a Pro Bowl type player.
On D I think our front 7 has a slight edge to theirs, but their secondary is better than ours. Their CBs may be the second best in the league behind only the Jets.
If you disagree, again I'm open minded, show me where you think I'm wrong.
Last edited by GeorgiaJeff; 01-25-2011 at 01:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 matt forte had 160 total yards sunday how is the packers rb's under 100 total better? thanks
I'm talking about the whole package. Our running game is better than theirs, but they somehow manage to get in the end zone a little more frequently than we do. Rodgers may not throw a td pass, but he marches them down the field and then in the red zone they punch it in.
What does Smith say, we want to score more points than they (Bears opponents) do.
Last edited by GeorgiaJeff; 01-25-2011 at 01:09 PM.
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Morgan Burnett saw significant time (and was developing nicely)
Nick Barnett is a starter and effective player
Brandon Chillar is a starter in nickel defense and effective player
No not all players lost were starters, but they were most definitely affected. What this proves is that they have good depth behind them all.
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Originally Posted by
GeorgiaJeff Missed that. My bad.
For the record, as we're all discussing this, we're all on the same side, that is, we love the Bears and want them to win. Some of us just see the Packers as being better than the Bears on O.
Let's be realistic and fair here, on O where do the Bears actually have an edge save running back?
QB? Not now, but Cutler could eventually be better than Rodgers. I believe Cutler has more raw skills than Rodgers.
O-line? Their o-line isn't that great, but ours is worse.
WRs? Theirs is arguably the best in the league.
TEs? Finley when healthy is a Pro Bowl type player.
On D I think our front 7 has a slight edge to theirs, but their secondary is better than ours. Their CBs may be the second best in the league behind only the Jets.
If you disagree, again I'm open minded, show me where you think I'm wrong.
think their "O" is better, our "D" is better and our ST's are better and coaching about even and NEITHER coaching near the top of league.Just think the gap "over-all" is not muhc as seen by almsot all games close at end. does it SUCK any and all times we lose to the packers? YES, does that make them "alot" better than us or a big gap between us? no
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Originally Posted by
BearStuff Morgan Burnett saw significant time (and was developing nicely)
Nick Barnett is a starter and effective player
Brandon Chillar is a starter in nickel defense and effective player
No not all players lost were starters, but they were most definitely affected. What this proves is that they have good depth behind them all.
Burnett like wright a rook and like wright had made some good plays,but also some bad rook mistakes in preseason-i'd say that probably would ahve continued all year
As said, barnett on downside and not playing well last 2 years, disagree he was a huge loss and by allowing hawk to his position and him playing better at Worst a wash and maybe even a positive for packers in 2011
And chillar in the hunter/jamar williams/roach etc etc linebackers.. a dime a dozen and not bad ,but not difference makes and easily replaceable. as seen on both team in 2010.
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Because our WR were a non factor and their's gain big yards. So I am glad we can depend on Forte to get yards but it's gonna take more than him to win games.
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Originally Posted by
motownbear btw if the pack lose the superbowl we wont have to do shit they will be jinxed like all other superbowl losers lol
LOL missed this before! great point!!
2010, indy 10-6 eliminated WC weekend( worst record since 2002)
2009-cards 10-6 eliminated 2nd round
2008-patriots 11-5 and missed playoffs
2007- bears 7-9 missed playoffs
2006- seattle 9-7 lost to bears
2005-philly 6-10 missed playoffs
2004- carolina 7-9 missed playoffs
2003- oakland 4-12 missed playoffs
2002 - rams 7-9 missed playoffs
2001- giants 7-9 missed playoffs
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 think their "O" is better, our "D" is better and our ST's are better and coaching about even and NEITHER coaching near the top of league.Just think the gap "over-all" is not muhc as seen by almsot all games close at end. does it SUCK any and all times we lose to the packers? YES, does that make them "alot" better than us or a big gap between us? no
Fair enough. We agree about special teams.
Do you agree their corners are better than ours?
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Originally Posted by
GeorgiaJeff Fair enough. We agree about special teams.
Do you agree their corners are better than ours?
yes their Corners are better and while hard to compare 3-4 and 4-3 think overall our front 7 is better than their's.. with url,pep and briggs being top playmakers over just mathew's and raji...
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Originally Posted by
dabears54 yes their Corners are better and while hard to compare 3-4 and 4-3 think overall our front 7 is better than their's.. with url,pep and briggs being top playmakers over just mathew's and raji...
We agree on our front 7 being better than theirs.
By the way, as of Sunday the Packers are my #1 most hated (strong dislike) team. As you know it used to be the Vikings because of their dominance over the Bears in the 1970s and them leading us by 7 in the all-time series. Losing a NFC Championship Game is worse than getting your butt whipped over a decade's time and trailing in the all-time series.
I consider Sunday's defeat to be the worse loss in Bears history including losing Super Bowl XLI.
Before Sunday the Packers were #3 on my most hated teams list behind the Vikings and Redskins.
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