What sort of fricking IDIOTS would burn their onw teams colours!!!! FFS!!!!
It doesn't matter whose name is on the back it is still navy blue and bunt orange with GSH on the sleeve!!!
What sort of fricking IDIOTS would burn their onw teams colours!!!! FFS!!!!
It doesn't matter whose name is on the back it is still navy blue and bunt orange with GSH on the sleeve!!!
I have to say it.... I'm sorry.... I've been good and quiet for the most part.... but I gotta ask...
Are these the same fans that call me retarded?
I have seen some Favre jersey in flames. But jersey burning is just dumb. I will not buy a Bears QB jersey until he gets a ring or two depends if the QB pulls a Dilfer. But Cutler did support the nay sayers by starting out flat and him not returing just fueled the fire. I question his heart, not his toughness. As far as fans flying off the handle, look at the caliber of this game. It was historic. There is allot behind these two original NFL teams. People just tlet their emotionds get the best of them. My question is, How many oops do we allot for JA and staff?
CHICAGO -- Caleb Hanie was diplomatic following the Bears’ 21-14 defeat at the hands of the Green Bay Packers in the NFC Championship game on Sunday at Soldier Field.
After serving as the Bears No. 2 quarterback the entire 2009 season, Hanie was demoted to third string by Bears offensive coordinator Mike Martz in all but three games. Just like he did against the Carolina Panthers in Week 5, Hanie gave the Bears offense a lift upon replacing veteran backup Todd Collins -- who replaced injured starter Jay Cutler -- late in the third quarter.
Although Hanie had a few rough moments Sunday, he clearly outperformed Collins, which raises questions about the Bears depth chart at quarterback.
“They just liked the way Todd was doing things at that time and felt comfortable with him," Hanie said. "He’s been in the league 16 years and he’s done a great job when he’s been elsewhere and so that’s why they go [that way].”
“I’d like to think that I don’t need that type of motivation, but when you get demoted you always have a little extra fire in you to come back and show that they made the wrong decision. But that’s just the coach’s decision at that time and you can’t argue with a guy with 16 years of experience like Todd has.”
Hanie finished the game 13 of 20 for 153 yards, one touchdown and two interceptions. The numbers, however, don't paint the entire picture.
“He went out there and laid it all out on the line," Bears cornerback Tim Jennings said. "He came in, stepped up and played great. You have to take your hat off to the Green Bay defense. That’s a great team, but you have to tip your cap to Caleb and the whole offensive team effort. Caleb came in and gave us a good spark. We just fell a little short.”
“I thought his play was awesome," fellow cornerback Charles Tillman added. "He came in there and I thought he showed tremendous poise on such short notice. For what they asked him to do, I thought he did a good job.”
CHICAGO -- The only thing older than the Bears-Packers rivalry is the Bears' failure over most of that time at quarterback. Great linebackers, running backs and linemen the Bears have plenty of; quarterbacks are another matter entirely. And perhaps never has there been more despair in Chicago over quarterback incompetence than in the wake of the loss to the Packers in the NFC Championship Game on Sunday. Forbidding the mention of the name Jay Cutler may be the best way to cope with winter. Only a Bears quarterback could stink out the joint and then get worse while sitting on the sideline.
[+] Enlargehttp://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0123...ction1_200.jpg Jeff Hanisch/US PresswireJay Cutler didn't get a chance to make up for a shaky showing in the first half of Sunday's NFC Championship Game.
Look, you're not going to read in this space any suggestion from me that Cutler's knee injury wasn't serious enough to send him to the sideline or that Cutler was a complete baby for not going back on the field with a trip to the Super Bowl at stake. But any credible analysis of the NFC Championship Game, especially of the Bears' performance, has to start with Cutler, the pivotal figure in the game whether we're talking about his first-half incompetence or his second-half absence.
The absence, without question, infuriated more people. In 30 years of covering professional football I've never seen a front-line player crushed by his peers the way Cutler was Sunday in real time. Granted, communicating via Twitter is still relatively new, and we're now privy to unedited thoughts in a way we've never been previously.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebacker Derrick Brooks, a future Hall of Famer, tweeted, "I have to be crawling and can't get up to come off the field. Josh Freeman would not come out. Meds are available ... " A few minutes later when the Bears sent their third-stringer, Caleb Hanie, in to the game and Cutler was therefore ineligible to return, Brooks tweeted, "There is no medicine for a guy with no guts and heart."
Another future Hall of Famer, Deion Sanders, said, "I never question a player's injury, but I do question a player's heart."
Arizona Cardinals defensive lineman Darnell Dockett tweeted, "If I'm on the Chicago team Jay Cutler has to wait 'til me and the team shower [and] get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room."
Mark Schlereth, the former lineman and current ESPN analyst, said via Twitter, "As a guy [who has had] 20 knee surgeries you'd have to drag me out on stretcher to leave a championship game."
And Maurice Jones-Drew tweeted, "All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee ... I played the whole season on one."
During a postgame radio show, a person closer to home, Steve McMichael, perhaps the toughest of the 1985 Bears, said that Cutler, for his own sake, needed to be legitimately injured.
Brian Urlacher, precisely because he's a great teammate, passionately defended Cutler's toughness in his postgame news conference, answering a question about the issue by saying, "Jay was hurt. I don't question his toughness. He doesn't bitch and complain when he gets hit." And Urlacher shot back about the players expressing their opinions via Twitter, "jealous guys, sitting at home watching on TV."
But what sticks out is that Brooks, Sanders, Dockett and Schlereth have all played in the Super Bowl. All but Dockett won at least one Super Bowl. Expanding the picture even more, it's clear Cutler has a credibility problem, and not because he's not popular with the media. Those tweets are a small sample of what was communicated about Cutler and his failings during the NFC Championship Game. A lineman who played more than a dozen years and won multiple Super Bowls told me after the game that he was stunned Cutler was standing on the sideline, not on crutches, receiving no treatment while his team played on. And, the player said, what made it worse was that Cutler didn't appear to be counseling his backup, Todd Collins, or Hanie. And this all came on the heels of Mike Martz telling ESPNChicago.com's Jon Greenberg that criticism of Cutler's fundamentals, specifically his footwork, is "fair... You can't go through a lifetime with those kinds of habits and fix them in one season." Martz revealed that Cutler is still doing footwork drills twice a week, every week, and said the quarterback is working "diligently" and that "he'll get there."
[+] Enlargehttp://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0123...gers02_200.jpg Jeff Hanisch/US PresswireAaron Rodgers is all the things Jay Cutler is not, from preparation to performance.
But we don't hear those Peyton Manning-like stories about Cutler, how he comes early to practice and stays late and works systematically and demonically at getting better. What we hear, even from teammates in both Denver and Chicago, is that Cutler is an arrogant, pouting player who rates himself quite highly. It's a characterization that is believed totally throughout the league, through almost any pro football circle you wander into. And because it's believed wholly that Cutler is a guy with a big arm, an overrated sense of himself and little if any heart, precious few people in Cutler's own fraternity had any sympathy for him during the game.
It will be interesting, from what we know of Cutler, to see if he even notices.
A former quarterback who wears a Super Bowl ring, who has studied Cutler's entire career in the NFL, told me before he left the field Sunday, "The sad thing is that if he embraced working on the monotonous details of quarterbacking he could be great."
And all this testimony is important why?
Because the Chicago Bears still don't have a quarterback worthy of the defense, worthy of the special teams, worthy of the effort put forth by the team in almost every other area. And that's the reason the Packers are going back to the Super Bowl instead of the Bears, because Aaron Rodgers is all the things Cutler is not, from preparation to performance. It's of great credit to the Bears that they got so close to the Super Bowl, having to go to the bullpen for the third-stringer, given the disparity between Rodgers and Cutler, or for that matter between Cutler and the other final four quarterbacks, Ben Roethlisberger, Rodgers and even young pup Mark Sanchez.
It's hard for those of us who've grown up following the Bears to not wonder how many more championships the franchise would have won if the club played year in, year out with a competent quarterback. I'm 52 years old and have followed a team whose top quarterback, by passer efficiency, is Erik Kramer. It's a team whose best quarterback (Sid Luckman) has been retired 60 years, whose best receivers (Johnny Morris and Harlon Hill) have been retired 47 and 50 years, whose all-time leading receiver (Walter Payton) is a running back who has 170 more receptions than the franchise's No. 1 wide receiver.
All of that is because the Bears can never find/develop/acquire the right quarterback, which is directly attributable to bad management. The Packers have gone from Brett Favre to another All-Pro, Rodgers, while the Bears have a second-stringer, Todd Collins, who isn't any longer fit for the NFL. For Collins to be the second-string quarterback ahead of Hanie is an example of egregiously poor decision-making as it concerns the position of quarterback, only the most important position in all of sports. Sunday's NFC Championship Game is like so many other games I've watched all my life, when Dick Butkus and the great defenses of the 1960s would be undermined because the Bears couldn't muster any offense, when the 1980s defenses would be left hanging because there was nobody to back up the best modern-day quarterback the Bears have had, Jim McMahon, when he was injured. Now, Urlacher and Lance Briggs and Julius Peppers get to find out how great defense -- and that's what the Bears played against the Packers after Green Bay's first drive -- can be undermined.
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The Bears are never the ones to draft and develop an Aikman or Manning or Roethlisberger, or wisely trade for a Brees. Hell, the Bears can't even come up with a Matt Ryan or a Joe Flacco. They gave two first-round picks and two other picks and a player for Jay Cutler, who at his best constantly has the metropolis holding its breath, looking at games through spread fingers, praying to God he doesn't screw it up by throwing it to the other guys. And at his worst, he looks for the perfect pass instead of moving the chains and managing the game and thinks his arm is stronger than John Elway's, which is both stupid and immaterial.
Before Cutler was hurt and his heart was questioned, he missed passes to Devin Hester (one crossing pattern, one deep ball) that 20 quarterbacks in the league would have made. Actually, Hanie completed essentially the same pass to Johnny Knox that Cutler missed to Hester. So, the Packers go to Arlington, Texas for the Super Bowl with their wonderfully effective and creative Rodgers, who in contrast to Cutler is a delight. The Bears, after this particularly bitter loss, will leave even their most loyal constituents angry and resentful. Just maybe, concerning quarterback, the Bears will now go back to the drawing board, though the result is likely to remain the same as it has always been.
Could a mod merge this thread w/the other one w/the same title?
Brian Urlacher defends Jay Cutler
CHICAGO -- Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher vehemently defended the toughness of quarterback Jay Cutler, who left Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Green Bay Packers in the third quarter with an injured left knee.
“ http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl...rs/65/2140.jpg Jay was hurt. I don't question his toughness. He's tough as hell. He's one of the toughest guys on our football team.The Packers won 21-14 as the Bears were forced to play third-string quarterback Caleb Hanie after second-stringer Todd Collins was ineffective.
” -- Brian Urlacher
Cutler said he will undergo an MRI on Monday.
"Jay was hurt," Urlacher said. "I don't question his toughness. He's tough as hell. He's one of the toughest guys on our football team. He doesn't bitch. He doesn't complain when he gets hit. He goes out there and plays his ass off every Sunday. He practices every single day. So, no, we don't question his toughness."
Cutler tried to test the knee by riding a stationary bike on the sideline, where he remained throughout the game.
Shortly after the game, fans began calling sports talk shows to question Cutler's toughness. Urlacher was told that some players around the league were doing the same via Twitter.
Arizona's Darnell Dockett posted on his Twitter account, "If I'm on chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room! #FACT."
Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew added his thoughts, tweeting, "All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee... I played the whole season on one..."
"Nothing like jealous people who are sitting home watching," Urlacher said. "Players around the league you said, right? Yeah, love jealous people when they're watching our game on TV while their season is over."
In a postgame show on Fox, Urlacher again defended his quarterback when told fans were critical.
"Who cares what they think?" he said. "That's my response to them. They are not playing in this game. Jay was hurt, obviously. There's no reason for him to be out there if he can't get it done. He was obviously hurt pretty bad or he would have played.
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"For them to question his toughness is stupid to me."
Cutler said he injured his knee on the second-to-last series in the first half and then aggravated it on the next series.
"We gave it a go that first series [in the second half], but I really couldn't plant and throw," he said. "So they kind of pulled me.
"I was going to keep playing. But they made the decision that giving Todd a shot would better suit the team."
When told players were questioning him, Cutler said: "No comment on that."
Packers players were surprised Cutler didn't come back.
"You know if he doesn't come back it had to be serious, not to come back and play in this game," Charles Woodson said.
Bears center Olin Kreutz was not surprised, and he said he could see Cutler's leg shaking during a huddle in the second quarter.
"I didn't even think he was going to finish the half," Kreutz said. "When he came back to try it again, that amazed me. It was shaking right after he took the hit and walked back in the huddle. It was swinging like this [waving his hand back and forth].
"So I knew one of his ligaments probably went. I can't remember exactly what play it was. I know it was the second quarter. I remember him walking in the huddle, and I saw it shaking like this. I said, 'Ah, man.'"
Kreutz also shot back at Cutler's critics on Twitter.
"I don't know what somebody might have said, but that's just ignorance," Kreutz said. "They should turn that [expletive] Twitter off."
Bears coach Lovie Smith said Cutler was disappointed.
"He was hurt, and he couldn't go," Smith said. "Trainers, doctors and all, they are the ones who really made that decision. As far as Jay he is like everyone else; he was disappointed he couldn't go out and play to help his team win."
Smith wasn't happy when asked again about Cutler not returning.
"He hurt his knee and he was out, all right? There's nothing else for me to tell you on that," Smith said. "I don't know exactly when it happened. He couldn't go, and we moved on. Let's go to some other questions, how about that?"
Bears receiver Rashied Davis also supported Cutler.
"You know yourself better than anybody, and Jay is a very tough guy. You've seen it," Davis said. "For him to go out of a game, something had to be wrong. I don't know what it is, but Jay is a pretty tough dude."
Cutler has been a lightning rod of controversy since coming over to the Bears in a trade with the Denver Broncos before the 2009 season. Cutler's first year with the Bears was disastrous as he threw 26 interceptions and Chicago finished 7-9.
But Cutler improved this season, despite an offensive line that yielded the most sacks in the NFL. And despite the constant battering he took, Cutler missed only one game after suffering a concussion.
Cutler wasn't effective Sunday as he completed 6 of 13 passes for 80 yards and an interception in the first half. He tried to play in the third quarter, but after a three-and-out series, he left and would not return. He finished with a passer rating of 31.8.
Fair or not, a defining day for Jay Cutler
By Kevin Seifert
CHICAGO -- Cyberspace buzzed Sunday with talk of the single-worst thing you can say about a player in a team sport.
Did Jay Cutler quit on his Chicago Bears teammates in Sunday's NFC Championship Game?
[+] Enlargehttp://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0123...ler_ps_300.jpg Jonathan Daniel/Getty ImagesChicago's Jay Cutler completed six passes for 80 yards with an interception against Green Bay.
Moments after the game, I suggested we table that discussion until we heard from the participants and knew all of the facts about Cutler's left knee injury. Let's just say that postgame interviews didn't do a lot to clear up the question.
Speaking to reporters, Cutler said he suffered the injury -- the details of which he did not specify - on the second-to-last series of the first half. (The final play of that drive was a sack by Green Bay Packers cornerback Sam Shields.)
Asked how the knee felt, Cutler said: "It hurt."
Asked why he played the first series of the third quarter and then left for good, Cutler said: "We gave it a go that first series but couldn't really plant and throw, so they kind of pulled me."
Asked to clarify if he or the Bears' medical staff made that decision, Cutler said: "Yeah, I was going to keep playing. But they made the decision giving Todd [Collins] a shot would be better for the team."
Cutler said he hoped the injury wouldn't require surgery but will have an MRI on Monday.
I think it's awfully hard to speculate that Cutler didn't want to continue playing because his team was down 14-0 and he had completed only six of 14 passes to that point. The question is not whether Cutler tapped out. It's whether, in the NFC Championship Game, Cutler should have insisted on continuing to play regardless of the pain and debilitation involved.
Although we don't know the exact nature of his injury, we do know Cutler stood on the sidelines for the remainder of the game. If there was medical fear of, say, a torn ligament, it's more likely he would have been on crutches or in the locker room to limit swelling.
I'm not a huge fan of the macho attitude that compels players to push through debilitating injuries, but it's clearly a part of football at the professional level. Everyone is dealing with one kind of injury or another, the thinking goes.
As a result, a number of current players criticized Cutler via Twitter during the game. One was Jacksonville Jaguars running back Maurice Jones-Drew, who tweeted:
"All I'm saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee ... I played the whole season on one ..."
Based on the hits we've seen Cutler take this season, I think we can all conclude he is a pretty tough guy. But barring some surprise discovery in Monday's MRI, I fear this episode could define Cutler's career for a long time. Fair or otherwise, San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers set the bar by playing an entire 2007 playoff game with a torn anterior cruciate ligament.
Two Bears players, center Olin Kreutz and linebacker Brian Urlacher, suggested Cutler sprained his MCL. Urlacher said "it’s easy to talk [expletive] about someone when you’re sitting on your couch watching their game" and added: "He's one of the toughest players on our football team."
Was he on Sunday? Unfortunately, that question will hound Cutler for years
Come on, this is from a team that thinks Todd Collins is a #2...!!! How F'ed up are they...
wow... we lost our QB to injury. almost pulled it out with Hanie, and have a TON to look forward to next year.
we made it farther than anyone thought we would, including Bear fans.
I'm upset by the loss, but I'm pleased with how the season went when you consider all the variables.