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Julius Peppers fined 10 grand for hit on Aar
Julius Peppers fined 10 grand for hit on Aaron Rodgers
Helmet-to-helmet blow drew penalty too Brad Biggs
Julius Peppers will need to work this weekend to pay off some debt.
Fortunately, he has a job Sunday in Honolulu in the Pro Bowl. The Chicago Bears defensive end was fined $10,000 for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers in Sunday’s NFC Championship Game at Soldier Field. The fine was reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter.
Referee Terry McAulay called a 15-yard penalty on the play and the Bears reacted vehemently. The NFL has clearly sided with McAulay on the matter. The hit led to speculation in Wisconsin that Rodgers has suffered a third concussion this season. He did not.
Peppers will earn $45,000 if the NFC wins the Pro Bowl and $22,500 if they lose the game, more than enough to cover his fine.
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what a load.
really hate ths rule, a 6'7" DE hitting into a 6'3" Qb is very likely to have his helmet hit the qb's helmt, unless there is a way to detach his head from his body, it was a clean hit that he's been taought to do sice high School. he didn't lead with his helmet but the physics aof a 6'7 De adn 6'3' Qb will likely result in the head/had at sometime in that 1/10th of a second
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Originally Posted by
dabears54
what a load.
really hate ths rule, a 6'7" DE hitting into a 6'3" Qb is very likely to have his helmet hit the qb's helmt, unless there is a way to detach his head from his body, it was a clean hit that he's been taought to do sice high School. he didn't lead with his helmet but the physics aof a 6'7 De adn 6'3' Qb will likely result in the head/had at sometime in that 1/10th of a second
Right on brother! This is one area that the rules committee needs to examine again. QB's are football players no different than any other player who straps on a helmet. If unprotected they get hit numerous time during a game. If head injuries are such a big deal then redesign the helmet to prevent most head injuries and make it mandatory for all players to wear one. This just another example of how the NFL either refuses to subsidize new developments in helmet technology or simple ignores those that are currently available. Hell, it's a rough sport and helmet to helmet contact has been around ever since high impact plastic helmets and face masks have been in use but now it becomes a bigger deal because it's getting attention. Stop being so cheap NFL owners and either invest in developing helmets that reduce the possiblity of head injuries instead of penalizing and fining great players who are simply doing their jobs as they were trained to do.
Julius Peppers has never been known as a cheap shot artist and his hit on Rodgers was a clean hit that would never been penalized before this NFL "witch hunt" began. Look again and you'll see that Peppers approached Rodgers with his shoulder and not his head. As his shoulder made contact and Rodgers cringed and turned his head contact was made INCIDENTALLY!!!! This is the part of the rule that needs to be changed.
If they can wave off PI penalties over incidental contact based on the officials judgement then they certainly could do the same where in the officials judgement helmet to helmet contact was not intentional and that it came incidental to the player's making the tackle. If you don't modify this somewhat pretty soon, if not already, you'll have QB's intentionally ducking into the tackle in order to create incidental helmet to helmet contact and turn an 8-10 yard loss into a 15 yard gain. I'm not implying that's what Rodger did but that was the outcome of the play. No wonder sacks are falling as mcuh as the are. The 85 Bears would never have been able to play the way they did defensively had this rule been in effect then.
It's just plain stupid and if they review the entire season I think they'd find that the majority of head injuries sustained by QB's came from their heads hitting the turf not from sacks!
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exactly Soul!..
And what kills me, is if peppers "pulls up", and rodger's escapes, people destroying peppers for not giving 100% or getting rodgers and a "bust" for his contract
If peppers tries to instead of a text-book taught since high school to "Hit through the tackle" and wrap with both arms, and just arm tackels him and the throw is completed, again, peppers is killed for not making the play
Thirdly peppers head actually hits the shoulder first then head, showing not leading with "Crown".. and if going to just call "helmet to helmet".. why aren't their 15 flags a game when RB's and LB's hit helmet to helmet each play, or FB's in DT's or LB's that lead with helmet evry play when blocking.. why are those not called if "its the rule".. nothing about it being just for qb's..
and FWIW, rodger's DOES wear the new better protected helmet!.. and said after game that the helmet is working and credits it on that play!
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You guys have got to be kidding. If it was Raji hitting Cutler with his helmet, you'd be up in arms calling for a penalty. Or if it was any other DE in the league. Could be Jared Allen, or Suh, or heck, even James Harrison. They've been calling helmet to helmet all year long, what makes you think they would give Peppers a bye, especially on such a blatant one?
I understand that they've grown up playing football like this, but times are changing. I hate this rule just as much as everyone else, because it's heading in a direction that no fan of football wants to see this league go. Nevertheless, the league is run by the NFL and they made the rule, so players have to learn how to adjust. I've seen several pass rushers make clean hits. Peppers had all day to adjust on that rush, all he had to do was aim a little lower and go for a body shot.
I am by no means arguing for the rule, but I, and none of the pass rushers in the league, have any control over it. So, until they take an extra tenth of a second and aim a bit lower, the flags will fly and the fines will be charged.
“I think he did [tarnish his legacy]. Not only this season, but the last few seasons, going back and forth [on retirement] and bouncing to a few different teams. I think about it, and I have to really think hard to think back to when he was a Green Bay Packer and when he played his best football and was in Super Bowls and when he became the Brett Favre we all know."
-Kurt Warner
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It's a crappy rule. I don't like it, but I also don't care for the whole "process" rule.
But it's a rule, the NFL has been consistant in fineing players for it, and I do believe there were stiffer fines handed out, for hits that were no more blatent, on other players this year.
10K isn't going to make his kids go to school without shoes, and I'm sure he's already over it, so unless the rule changes(not friggen likely)your just going to have to accept it.
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Originally Posted by
GlobeOfFrogs
It's a crappy rule. I don't like it, but I also don't care for the whole "process" rule.
But it's a rule, the NFL has been consistant in fineing players for it, and I do believe there were stiffer fines handed out, for hits that were no more blatent, on other players this year.
10K isn't going to make his kids go to school without shoes, and I'm sure he's already over it, so unless the rule changes(not friggen likely)your just going to have to accept it.
Yep, in the end, it wasn't a very big fine compared to some of those that have been handed out. I believe that's because he is a first time offender. I think the only reason they did it is for the principle of the whole thing. They've done it with everyone else, they're going to do it with Peppers. Can you imagine how furious a guy like Harrison would be if Peppers didn't get fined?
“I think he did [tarnish his legacy]. Not only this season, but the last few seasons, going back and forth [on retirement] and bouncing to a few different teams. I think about it, and I have to really think hard to think back to when he was a Green Bay Packer and when he played his best football and was in Super Bowls and when he became the Brett Favre we all know."
-Kurt Warner
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I'm gonna take exception to your comments regarding Cutler. Several weeks ago Cutler was hit, by a helmet, so hard that his chin needed stitches and no penalty was called. So let's not go down that road with the if Raji hit Cutler we'd be up in arms. Cutler was sacked 50 times this year and God knows how many hits he took while throwing and there were several incidences of contact to his helmet that weren't called yet some are calling him a quitter because he didn't finish the game due to a knee injury.
Now to the point. Watch that play again and you'll see that Peppers did aim lower. At inception it was a shoulder to shoulder hit. Once contact was made Rodgers head turned and that's when the helmets met. Peppers did his best to avoid it but that difficult when the QB actually turns into the path of your helmet as he follows through with the tackle. It was a clean hit and the contact was incidental and that's the reson why the rule should be chnaged to consider incidental contact as simply being part of the process during a sack. I'm not disputing the helmet to helmet call when the rusher leads with his helmet and stikes the QB right in his grill.
You probably be pleased to note that more often than not Rodgers spins out of waist and leg tackles and lives to complete crucial passes. When a mobile QB who scrambles as much as he does can hurt you with it you need to make certain that you wrap him up from the waist up to the shoulders. For a guy with Peppers height it's difficult if not impossible to hit a guy around the chest or shoulders and not have his helmet come into play. The guy is only 4-5 inches taller than most QB's and that makes all the difference in the world. The rule needs to be modified and helmets improved it's as simple as that.
Last edited by soulman; 01-27-2011 at 04:25 PM.
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From what i remember, he DID lead with his helmet, they even mentioned that fact in the announcing, and it was a typical helmet to helmet hit, hence the fine and penalty. Seemed pretty clear cut to me.
Video:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...es-a-hard-shot
Last edited by Jimmors; 01-27-2011 at 03:42 PM.
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