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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
Now damn it, they need to be making the salary cap INCREASE instead of decreasing it. The owners are such pigs. They have, for decades, prevented the players from earning the money that they rightfully deserve. The NFL is a pile of crap for this, and the owners in the league are the most oppressive owners of any professional sports league.
I agree with you in principal, but "rightfully deserve" is a pretty strong description, that should be reserved for the retirees, NOT the current players. I think the players should take a hit to improve life for the ones who came before them, making their high salaries, increased safety and top-notch medical care, possible. The owners are still pigs at the trough.
``If a contest had 97 prizes, the 98th would be a trip to Green Bay.'' John McKay
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The Bears Cap Room
Also, we won’t know what the 2011 salary cap for all teams will be until there’s a deal in place. For reference, the salary cap in 2009, the last capped year was right about $130 million.
Arizona $83 million
Atlanta $102.1 million
Baltimore $101.3 million
Buffalo $96.4 million
Carolina $73 million
Chicago $104.9 million
Cincinnati $90.7 million
Cleveland $99.2 million
Dallas $136.6 million
Denver $125 million
Detroit $113.8 million
Green Bay $129.8 million
Houston $118.4 million
Indianapolis $115.5 million
Jacksonville $78.1 million
Kansas City $74.7 million
Miami $103.1 million
Minnesota $108.4 million
New England $102.3 million
New Orleans $105.2 million
New York Giants $126.3 million
New York Jets $128.5 million
Oakland $85.8 million
Philadelphia $80.8 million
Pittsburgh $116 million
San Diego $85.8 million
San Francisco $100.9 million
Seattle $81.1 million
St. Louis $102.4 million
Tampa Bay $59.7 million
Tennessee $107.4 million
Washington $115.2 million
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...ry-cap-figures
It looks like we will have 25 million to work with without cutting anyone.
Tommie counts about 3.75 million
Kevin Shaffer 1.25
That would bring the Bears with 30 million if the cap came back at it's old form.
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7.Garza,r $2,175,000 $583,000 -0- -0- $2,758,000 2011
9.Harris t $2,312,000 $1,625,000 2.5 mill -0- $6,437,000 2012
13.Hillenmayer $1,800,000 $1,000,000 -0- -0- $2,800,000 2011
17.Manumala $1,495,000 $400,000 1 mill -0- $2,895,000 2014
24.Shaffer $1,750,000 $183,000 -0- 250,000 $2,183,000 2011
The way I look at it we could add 13,282,000 by cutting some of the fat.
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Thanks for the update. Now that the cap appears to be a factor again were back to the old way of doing things and every dollar spent has to count in a productive way. No more experiments with the Taylors and Manumaleunas of the world.
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Originally Posted by
WindyCity
7.Garza,r $2,175,000 $583,000 -0- -0- $2,758,000 2011
9.Harris t $2,312,000 $1,625,000 2.5 mill -0- $6,437,000 2012
13.Hillenmayer $1,800,000 $1,000,000 -0- -0- $2,800,000 2011
17.Manumala $1,495,000 $400,000 1 mill -0- $2,895,000 2014
24.Shaffer $1,750,000 $183,000 -0- 250,000 $2,183,000 2011
The way I look at it we could add 13,282,000 by cutting some of the fat.
Unfort the cap doesn't work that way, think some will be gone, BUT when you cut a player you immediately take all his unamortized Signing bonus into that year, and create "dead cap space", so in some instances in can actually cost you MORE to cut than keep. Also you then have to replace thoe players and agan if the new contract is more expensive haven't saved a thing( though hopefully get better player)
FWIW if we cut all those players- we create roughly $5 mill in dead cap space, so the savings down to $8.2 mill and need a OG/DT/OLB/TE which doubt would be under that amount..So would free up some Space, but not as much at first blush
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Would cutting Manu save any dough?
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Would cutting Manu save any dough?
saves $1.2 mill... his $2.8 cap number -$1.6 mill unamortized SB= $1.2 mill
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Originally Posted by
dabears54
saves $1.2 mill... his $2.8 cap number -$1.6 mill unamortized SB= $1.2 mill
While that's not a huge savings it's sure as hell enough to make a dent in getting an OG who can both run and pass block effectively. With that in hand we don't need an OG size guy posing as a FB or TE neither of which he appears to be very good at. Sell the losers and let the winners run I say. That phrase ought to be familiar to ya' 54. LOL
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Originally Posted by
soulman
While that's not a huge savings it's sure as hell enough to make a dent in getting an OG who can both run and pass block effectively. With that in hand we don't need an OG size guy posing as a FB or TE neither of which he appears to be very good at. Sell the losers and let the winners run I say. That phrase ought to be familiar to ya' 54. LOL

LOL.. oh yeah...always tell people that the sucessful trader isn't so much the one's picking more "winners", but the one's that are smart enough to cut the losses quicker and that more than anything ruins a portfolio- holding the losses until the end. And in this instance do agree time to cut the bait..
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