Thread: Bears Extend Lovie through 2013

think king gets it right in his final ranking( and that the bears aren't a bad team and one of the top)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...7/super/2.html

1. Green Bay (14-6). Remember how the low seeds could never win it all? In the past six years, here are the seeds that won the Super Bowl: 2005, six (Pittsburgh) ... 2006, three (Indianapolis), 2007, five (New York Giants); 2008, two (Pittsburgh); 2009, one (New Orleans); 2010, six (Green Bay). Think of that: One team with home-field advantage through the playoffs has won the Super Bowl in the past six seasons.
2. Pittsburgh (14-5). For a defensive player of the year, Troy Polamalu had a miniscule impact on the 2010 playoffs for Pittsburgh.
3. New York Jets (13-6). I was with Rex Ryan Saturday night. Let's just say the two-week-old loss to Pittsburgh has not stripped him of one shred of confidence in his Jets.
4. New England (14-3). Tom Brady 50 MVP votes, The Rest Of The League 0. For those ripping the voting, remember: It's based on regular-season only.
5. Chicago (12-6). With 36 inches of snow on the ground, denizens of Chitown must really like seeing a mobile Jay Cutler in shorts and polo shirt, loving L.A.
6. Baltimore (13-5). The sun will come up tomorrow, Joe Flacco. You will be coached fine.
7. Atlanta (13-4). Good job locking up Mike Smith for three more years. Just hope he has some people to coach this summer.
8. New Orleans (11-6). Liked what I saw of Sean Payton on ESPN over the weekend. You got a future, kid.
9. Philadelphia (10-7). Kevin Kolb's not getting traded anytime soon, obviously, because there can be no trades. But it would be nuts to deal him anyway ... unless the Eagles know a lot more about Mike Kafka than the rest of us.
10. Indianapolis (10-7). Franchise tag feels about right for Peyton Manning.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz1DIZXQzqd

This is the line I was referencing which you took issue with

Again, the scores, and stats don't paint the proper pictures/tempo of the game.


That, is where I brought in the old saying the game wasn't as close as the score indicates

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

This is the line I was referencing which you took issue with

Again, the scores, and stats don't paint the proper pictures/tempo of the game.


That, is where I brought in the old saying the game wasn't as close as the score indicates

and that Line was said as a rebuttal to me pointing out we didn't lose to 'all the good teams" and beat the jets/eagles and packers

So do you think we didn't beat the eagles/jets and packers? and the "scores, and stats don't paint the proper pictures/tempo of the game" and those games weren't really good wins by bears? yes or no

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

i'm starting to fall under the persuasion that Lovie needs to have a good year before we talk about extension...

You can give him a 2 year extension( so coincides with angelo), that allows you if 2011 isn't good, you can still fire him and get another coach without too much owed, but also allows you the security of if 2011 is good, have continuity and not 10 mill questions if leaving and Free agents worrying about who will be here- which does impact any F/A decsion.

Originally Posted by DaBearski

I agree with 3Nag....

With our talent we should be doing more.

I mean we have how many coaches on our staff that have been a head coach?

Our problem is from a couple of things in my opinion:

1) Lovie has no emotions (isn't that a must for being a Bears HC?)
2) Lovie never adapts his game plan
3) Is Lovie meddling with the defensive scheme? Who do you blame for the CBs playing 10 yards off every play? The CBs have done this over the past three DCs..
4) Lovie is running this team like a business. You either want to win, or you don't. How many people are sold he loves the game after his press conferences? Even bill belichick shoots straight when he gets his butt kicks. He doesn't yell much. However he DOES call it like it is.
5) Lovie NEVER calls it like it is. If we got our asses kicked, say it. Look at Tomlin's post game comments right after the game... How do you feel about this loss? Mike Tomlin "It's a loss. We don't grade on a curve. We lost!!"...

Is it proper to have a HC that strictly uses the players to motivate themselves?

Bottom line, Lovie is more like a friend to the players than a Head Coach. A good Head Coach can be both. A friend only usually gets fired..

And I have to agree with ski on this one! Ski, what you posted pretty much sums up my feelings as well.

Despite his average of 9 wins per year he also produced 3 very mediocre year prior to this one. Add to that the fact that he has yet to win the big game ie; The Super Bowl in 2006 and this years NFC Championship Game.

I don't disagree that we need to extend him because right now we need the continuity that he and his staff provide. We have another window in which to excel for a few years and with that another chance at a Super Bowl win. In addition his players support him. I say extend the guy through 2013 with the understanding that he get this team to the Super Bowl and this time win it.

Given our lack of injuries this should have been our season to do it but Lovies lame ass coaching cost us the season finale against GB where we should have eliminated them from the playoffs and they never would even have had a chance at the "Show" at all. Once again the decision to first use Collins instead of Hanie in the Championship Game may have cost us a chance at that game as well since we wasted an entire quarter with Collins at the offensive helm.

Lovie keeps talking about improving and I do see that in both the additions to the coaching staff and the more recent development of some key players. My real question is, when is Lovie going develop into a better strategist and game day coach. Until I see that I'm not willing to give him any more than 3 more year to prove it!

I do not believe that the final score tells the story at all.

Do not resign him. Let him prove that he can maintain his current success. If he fails, move an assistant up for two years (allowing all the coordinators to stay intact). If that doesn't work then clean house and start from scratch.