04-19-2011, 10:51 AM #501
04-19-2011, 10:56 AM #502
Sherrod would be a great pick and would be solid value.
Originally Posted by Nick
At the same point, if the Bears decided to trade down with Sherrod on the board I would not be upset.
04-19-2011, 10:59 AM #503
dammit...I posted last weeks mock. here's this mornings
04-19-2011, 11:23 AM #504
on the qb's that can change the first round and if chased , create a few OT's and DT's to fall:
ideal landing spot for Qbs
What city/coaching staff gives each the best chance of success? Wes Bunting
A breakdown of where I see each of the top 2011 QB prospects having the best chance of success at the next level.
Cam Newton: Auburn – Ideal Fit: Buffalo Bills
There are a number of reasons why I think Newton is a good fit for Buffalo, but it starts and ends with the fact that the Bills already have someone in place at QB with Ryan Fitzpatrick. In order for Newton to be successful he needs to be brought along slowly and have some kind of mentor willing to show him the ropes and allow him to develop under him. The Bills also have a creative mind heading the offense in head coach Chan Gailey, who knows how to use a unique talent like Newton and think outside the box, as opposed to trying to consistently force Newton to be strictly a drop back passer. Finally, in order to be successful in Buffalo you need to be able to cleanly spin the football and have a strong enough arm to make all the throws needed in cold/windy Buffalo, New York. Newton not only has the ability to do that, but he’s also a gifted passer on the move and would instantly improve their offensive line as well because of his ability to create second lives. Overall, I still wouldn’t take Newton in the first round, but I think Buffalo gives him the best chance of success.
Jake Locker: Washington- Ideal fit: Washington Redskins
What other offense in the NFL would allow Locker to play more so to his strength than the Redskins? Head coach Mike Shanahan loves to work off the boot action game, get his quarterback outside the pocket and allow him to throw on the move. The boot action would also simplify the game for a rookie quarterback with a high/low read — something Locker will need early — and give him a run/pass threat outside the pocket. Locker certainly has the tools to be successful but needs to be in an offense that brings him along slowly and allows him to play consistently to his strengths, which is throwing on the move and improvising outside the pocket.
Andy Dalton: TCU Ideal fit: Seattle Seahawks
The Seahawks are more of a ball control offense, quickly getting the football out on time and then working off the play action game to look for the big play. Dalton possesses an underrated arm, spins a clean football and knows how to quickly decipher information and get the ball out on time. I can see him consistently moving the chains in Seattle sticking the ball into small windows underneath, creating second lives with his legs while consistently keeping his eyes down the field and looking for that big play.
Christian Ponder: Florida State – Ideal fit: San Francisco 49ers
Ponder possesses the kind the demeanor I can see instantly meshing with new head coach Jim Harbaugh. He’s the kind of kid you can grind on day in and day out, is accurate with the football and is mentally capable of handing a lot of volume early. Plus, he has experience coming from more of a pro-style system at Florida State, is comfortable from under center and can get his team in and out of a play. Ponder seems like the kind of underrated gym rat that Harbaugh could get the most out of in the NFL.
Ricky Stanzi: Iowa – Ideal fit: New England Patriots
Why not bring in the guy as the eventual successor to Tom Brady who has actually been compared to him as a prospect coming out of college? Stanzi is a winner. He’s a tall, lean kid who still has some physical maturing to do. However, he’s got a good feel in the pocket, knows how to work his way across the field and a case could be made that he’s as NFL ready as any QB in the class. Plus, he comes from Iowa where head coach Kirk Ferentz and Bill Belichick have close ties. All in all Stanzi isn’t a guy who can come in and win for you with from day one. However, if you give this guy a chance to learn under one of the best, he’s the kind of guy who will soak everything in and when his number is called he’ll be ready.
Colin Kaepernick: Nevada –Ideal Fit: Tennessee Titans
Kaepernick could end up being everything that Vince Young wasn’t. He’s not quite the same type of athlete, but he’s a good one in his own right who can buy time and create the big play with his arm or legs on the move. However, unlike Young the guy is a natural team leader, he’s a winner and is willing to put in the work in order to improve and get better. Much like Young though coming out, he’s still a work in progress and is going to take some time in order to get accustomed to the NFL game. However, he’s got the athletic ability to overcome some of his faults early and getting another run/pass threat who actually wants to get better at his trade and can handle the adversity that comes with being an NFL quarterback seems like a good fit for the Titans.
Blaine Gabbert: Missouri- Ideal fit: Cincinnati Bengals
Gabbert certainly has the talent to be a successful NFL quarterback, but he’s going to need work. Therefore, the potential of working with a new offensive coordinator like Jay Gruden has me intrigued. Gruden is a former AFL player who has coached in the AFL and UFL, and has a track record of getting the most out of his signal caller. Gabbert would be as talented physically as any QB Gruden has worked with, but I feel like he’s the kind of young, energetic personality that Gabbert would be more likely to thrive under through the ups and downs of being a rookie QB.
Ryan Mallett: Arkansas: Ideal Fit- Minnesota Vikings
If you need to protect a slow-footed quarterback with a running game, who better to be that guy than the NFL’s best, Adrian Peterson? The Vikings have the best back in the game and we all know they are going to want to consistently run the football. Therefore, with that consistent threat, Mallett would have time to work off the play action game, scan the field and use that big arm to deliver his patented darts all over an opposing secondary. Seems like a good fit for the Arkansas gunslinger.
04-19-2011, 11:38 AM #505
Personally I think his mock is fvcked and I think that's not surprising considering that he's listed as a NY Yankees columnist. So Bleacher Report, how does this guy get the job of doing a Chicago Bears mock draft anyway? Your incompetence is showing!
Originally Posted by Nick
Sherrod would be hard to pass up at #29 of he's all that's left of the top OT's and DT's at that point. We might trade back a few spots and still get him but it's a risk unless everybody who wants a QB or RB decides not to trade up and the run on them starts at the top of round two. Like I've said before he's far from my first choice but he's not the worst choice at #29.
Beyond the first I don't think the rest is worth crap. I don't see either Casey or Bailey as guys we want. Neither is a pure 3t guy and there should be far better on the board at the end of two than Casey. After two his mock doesn't address the more obvious needs of CB and OG/C.
WTF, now this mock changes from a DT to a WR (Baldwin) in two and then Austin in three. I don't even want to see this anymore. He's changing on the fly probably because one off his colleagues told him how ridiculous his last one was.
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04-19-2011, 11:52 AM #506
soul- Bleacher report crap- its not 'real reporters" or journalism,, just a fansite turning message board posts into article form, mostly wannabe writers, and its mostly crap and failed stuff, not worth the effort to even read most times... mostly high school kid's doing it..
04-19-2011, 11:59 AM #507
Yeah bleacher sucks blozz
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
Restore the roar!
04-19-2011, 12:05 PM #508
Well that explains a lot. Even HS kids can have some decent ideas and insight but this guy don't know shit about the Bears if he thought his latest set of projections made any sense after Sherrod. What he shifted to, on the fly so it seems, with Baldwin and Austin makes more sense based on needs and players who fit them. Problem is I don't see either of them still on the board where he projects them to be picked.
Originally Posted by dabears54
Pretty much a waste as you say.
04-19-2011, 12:27 PM #509
All of these mocks that just cover one team are fucking retarded. If you are going to issue a six round mock, do every team and make some sense of your damn picks!
Originally Posted by soulman
I would take Bailey in a hot minute in the third, problem is, we would be extremely lucky to grab him at 62. He's had a heck of an under the radar career for someone with 19 sacks the last three seasons who continually disrupted the backfield off the edge. I don't know that he absolutely can play UT, but I like his chances as a football player with his play on the field combined with his top notch athleticism. I'd have no problem with him at 62, simply because I think he is a much more highly rated talent than that and he has the potential to boost our DL in a big way.
04-19-2011, 12:44 PM #510
I could live with that as well as I could with guys like McClain or Nevis. Bailey could prove to be a Wilkerson v2.0 that has the ability to play both at 3t and DE. I like his speed and quickness off the snap but Marinelli will have some coaching to do compared to guys who are more natural 3t DT's.
Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox
He could also stand a little more ballast in his butt. Like Nevis, he's a little undersized but at 6'3" he should be able to add a little weight without it hurting him.