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    NEIL HAYES ON THE BEARS .hideTime { DISPLAY: none}Feb 8, 2011 12:29PM

    Super Bowl XLV showcased what makes the NFL the most popular and profitable sports league on the planet.

    The Packers’ 31-25 win over the Steelers drew a record crowd at Dallas Cowboys Stadium and record television ratings, which serves as the latest example of how the league is thriving in a weak economy. The NFL is expected to rake in a record $9 billion in revenues this year. That number should climb even higher in 2011.
    Former coach and broadcaster John Madden said last week that the NFL is “too good to screw up.” As true as that statement might be, owners and players seem determined to do just that, which could result in the league’s first work stoppage since 1987.
    The ticking heard when coaches and scouts descend on Indianapolis later this month for the NFL combine won’t be the sound from the dozens of stopwatches timing players in the 40-yard dash. It will mark time running out for owners and union representatives to work on a new collective-bargaining agreement before the current one expires March 4.
    Commissioner Roger Goodell and NFL Players Association President DeMaurice Smith continue to make the media rounds, leveraging their causes and stating their cases. They will receive no soapbox here. What follows is a spin-free analysis of a dispute that could create significant changes in a game that is insanely popular as is.
    What do both sides want?

    Owners claim the NFL’s financial model is failing even as revenues climb. They receive $1 billion in revenues before the money is divided with players, who receive 60 percent under the expiring agreement. Owners seek another $1 billion off the top that they say will be used to grow the game.

    The union is skeptical of owners crying poor and wants them to open their books to prove financial hardship. Owners say players have all the financial information they need.
    The players would prefer to extend the current agreement, which owners say is not an option.

    Can a lockout be avoided?
    If progress is being made, the sides can agree to extend the current agreement until the new compromise is reached. With the sides having had just one formal bargaining session since Thanksgiving, that seems unlikely. At this point, it’s more a matter of how long it will last.
    It could end quickly, which likely would leave the union fractured. Without a CBA, more than 500 free agents will be unable to sign contracts with lucrative bonuses, meaning approximately a fourth of the league’s players will be without immediate income. Benefits and medical insurance will cease, as well.

    A deal could be struck midsummer, allowing teams to scramble to sign the free agents and rookies needed to fill out their rosters before training camp. A reduction of training camp and a change in the preseason format likely will be part of the new deal, which could make for a frantic and disorienting start to the 2011 season.
    The worst-case scenario is the type of grudge match that wiped out the 1994 World Series and the 2004-05 NHL season. Although possible, there are too many billions at stake for the sides not to eventually come to their senses.

    Which side has more leverage?

    The owners are better equipped to deal with a lockout that could cost the league $1 billion by its own estimation if it lasts until the start of the regular season. They could reduce costs significantly by not paying salaries. TV deals would keep money rolling in even if no games were played, although it would be absorbed into future deals.
    It’s not just short-term financial distress that could make players buckle. Sitting out a year in a sport where the average career lasts 31/2 seasons could be a deal breaker. There already have been fissures on the union side as some players have broken ranks via Twitter. The owners seem more united, although they are a disparate group. The Rooney family, which runs the Pittsburgh Steelers, could have radically different opinions on some key issues than, say, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

    Will there be an 18-game season?

    As much as players loathe the idea of extending the regular season, and as hypocritical as the commissioner seems for campaigning for extra games during a season in which player safety has been emphasized like never before, expect it to happen. Goodell says fans want the extended season, but a recent Associated Press poll disputes his claim. There’s no debating that charging full price for four preseason games under the current format is akin to extortion, especially when the customer must purchase preseason games to secure season tickets.

    A two-game preseason and a 16-game regular season is the ideal solution. Considering that would mean two fewer pay days, it won’t be seriously considered.
    Players worry about injuries, and rightfully so. Other details would have to be worked out, such as prorating the time it takes for players to earn health care and pension benefits.

    Goodell has suggested voluntary offseason workouts could be reduced and training camp could be shortened in exchange for the two extra games. Adding players — and therefore jobs — to NFL rosters likely will be another compromise. There even has been talk of adding a second bye week.
    None of those potential compromises, however, are palatable to players who believe they are being asked to work more and earn less.

    Because two additional games could generate $500 million, which could help players recoup their losses, they might have to live with it no matter how much they hate the idea.

    Will there be a rookie wage scale?
    Both sides agree there’s a need to implement rookie pay restraints. It’s how to redistribute the money saved that remains a sticking point.


    The union has proposed a system where players would receive less up-front money, but their rookie contracts would be reduced from five to three years. Their plan also calls for some of the money saved to be distributed as incentives to players who are outperforming their contracts. Others want more money to go to veteran players who have proved their worth.

    Either way, everyone can agree that a system that guaranteed rookie Sam Bradford $50 million while three-time Super Bowl winner Tom Brady signed a $48.5 million deal is a joke.

    How will it affect the Bears?

    The Bears have 48 players under contract. The Packers, meanwhile, have 68 (actually, 69 counting suspended defensive tackle Johnny Jolly). That means Bears general manager Jerry Angelo will have more players to sign to fill out his roster and likely will have less time than usual in which to do it.

    If minicamps and organized team activities are canceled because of a lockout, new players will have less time to learn offensive and defensive schemes, which could make it more difficult for them to make an immediate impact. At least the Bears’ coaching staff has remained mostly intact. Imagine if players had to learn Mike Martz’s offense without the benefit of offseason workouts.

    An extended season could make depth more important than ever. That would put even more pressure on Angelo to make better personnel decisions. Given that the offensive line still could be a work in progress, having a backup quarterback who can do more than manage games could become even more important during an extended season.
    Other than that, it’s hard to say. These are largely uncharted waters. It’s difficult to know how teams will be affected until we know what the rules will be.

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    NO 18 game schedule. It IS hypocricy as noted to want safety, but to display them for 2 more games, when the current system is working just fine. Fans don't like preseason? They don't make money off of the tickets? I seem to recall that the Cowboys/whoever Hall of Fame game this year got a higher rating than the world series. That means, televise more, and split the revenue if need be. I've no sympathy for the Owners, not because they make more money, but because they fought against giving older players with dibiliatating injuries some kind of income to help them. That'd be like the army not giving a soldier who lost a leg in combat some kind of benefits, due to the trouble he'll have in finding income after the army. Also DO agree that the salary cap for rookies needs to be in place, because that will drive up parity (remember 2005 when nobody wanted to trade up, because they didn't want to spend $$$$$ on players? Well, teams with higher draft picks won't have to worry about not getting a good deal when trading down). Ultimately if the NFL decides not to have a season, I doubt there will be as much backlash as there was against baseball or hockey; people will just watch college ball that much more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    NO 18 game schedule. It IS hypocricy as noted to want safety, but to display them for 2 more games, when the current system is working just fine. Fans don't like preseason? They don't make money off of the tickets? I seem to recall that the Cowboys/whoever Hall of Fame game this year got a higher rating than the world series. That means, televise more, and split the revenue if need be. I've no sympathy for the Owners, not because they make more money, but because they fought against giving older players with dibiliatating injuries some kind of income to help them. That'd be like the army not giving a soldier who lost a leg in combat some kind of benefits, due to the trouble he'll have in finding income after the army. Also DO agree that the salary cap for rookies needs to be in place, because that will drive up parity (remember 2005 when nobody wanted to trade up, because they didn't want to spend $$$$$ on players? Well, teams with higher draft picks won't have to worry about not getting a good deal when trading down). Ultimately if the NFL decides not to have a season, I doubt there will be as much backlash as there was against baseball or hockey; people will just watch college ball that much more.
    A few things:

    1. preseason ratings are about 40% less than reg season even for HOF game, and the reg preseason games not shown antionally much worse-So yes its a huge 300 mill+ difference by having reg seaosn vs Preseason, and if players want higher salaries only way to support that is to go to 18 games

    2.Its the players own union, not owners , that screwed the players on the pension plans and medical stuff. And the union leaders screwed their own ilk, with bad advice like telling them to take lump sum or early retirement at 45 instead of 62, and when they lived to 60's realized screwed.. For instance, herb addelry gets $128/month, becuase he took a lump sum and stated benefts at age 45.. Ditka played same time Period gets close to $100,000 in his pension because waited until 65.. So whose at fault? not the owners, but the union and players themselves in many cases

    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_6777202



    At a news conference during Super Bowl week to announce the formation of the Gridiron Greats Assistance Fund, a foundation started by former Packer great Jerry Kramer for the benefit of players in dire need, Joe DeLamielleure stepped up to the podium and bluntly stated, "The NFL pension (stinks)."
    League officials were incredulous. DeLamielleure had experienced a family crisis unrelated to football that led to him taking his pension at age 45. Many of the former players raised sympathy by pointing to the $126-a-month pension Herb Adderley received until his recent 25 percent bump. What they didn't say is Adderley not only took his pension at 45, but took a partial lump sum of his pension.

    Adderley entered the NFL in the same 1961 draft as Ditka. Both finished their careers in 1972 with the Dallas Cowboys. Ditka, through coaching, endorsements and TV work, could afford to take his pension at a much later age, and receives an annual payment of nearly six figures.

    The 45-year-old retirement option was removed in 1993.

    "Some exercised unwise options," Henderson said. "They had all sorts of reasons, but they made a choice. Why criticize the pension plan?"

    One reason so many players in the 1970s took the early retirement option was former union boss Ed Garvey was quoting studies that said the life expectancy of NFL players was about 55 years. The notion has been debunked - too late for guys such as Adderley, DeLamielleure and several members of the 1977 Broncos. "I was one of those guys who, when I was contemplating taking it, nobody lived to 55 to take it," said Craig Morton, who quarterbacked the Orange Crush teams. "Why not take it? Now they have a lot of things to keep us living longer."



    Read more: Retired NFL players taking fight for benefits to Washington - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz1DOZSgPUh

    3. they now have programs like the 88 plan and others to help retired players:


    https://www.nflplayercare.com/

    4. agree 100% and seems both sides also agree a "rookie cap" will be in the new CBA, because the money given to rook's will now go to deserving players instead

    5. Becuase of the $$ in voledon both sides, just can't see killing the golden goose- be alot of empty threats over the next month or 2.. but at the end of the day BOTH SIDES need the cash flow


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