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    Martz on cutler on his way to 'very elite

    Martz to Cutler critics: Let it go

    Offensive coordinator says QB plenty tough, on his way to 'very elite'


    INDIANAPOLIS — Mike Martz shook his head as he tried to comprehend why people continue to attack Jay Cutler.

    Despite the dramatic improvement the Bears offensive coordinator saw in Cutler, the topic of conversation always seems to revert to how the quarterback let the team down in the NFC championship game and wasn't "tough enough'' to finish the contest after suffering a second-degree knee sprain.

    "I don't know why people want to dog pile this guy,'' Martz said of Cutler. "I don't get it. He's a tough guy. He wants to do everything right.''

    Striving for perfection is one thing. Going out and playing flawless football is another, and Cutler was far from the top of his game the last time he took the field. He was noticeably out of sync even before he injured his left knee against the Packers.

    "That last game, he didn't play as well as he can,'' Martz said. "That happens. Why does Brett Favre throw five interceptions in a playoff game? It happens.

    "We're all going to have to learn to let it go. He's a young player learning how to play. And he had never been in that environment before in his career, and he'll deal with it right next time.''

    Martz also is annoyed with people who dissect Cutler's demeanor. Some still question why Cutler looked unenthused as he sat on the sideline nursing his sore knee.

    "Let me ask you this: When you look at the tape of those guys that got injured for Green Bay in the Super Bowl, did you look at their body language? There's no difference,'' Martz said. "They're dejected because when you get injured in a big game like that, it's devastating."

    It might be a while before Cutler and Martz see each other, depending on what progress is made toward a new collective bargaining agreement. But even if the two could get together today, it wouldn't involve Cutler exerting himself on the field.

    "No,'' Martz said when asked if Cutler had starting working out. "The knee is not even close yet. I haven't seen him for a while because he's been out of the country, but we just have to make sure that thing is really healed before we start doing anything.''

    Once Cutler gets back on the field, a large part of the emphasis will be on mechanics. Martz laughed when told that one former NFL quarterback recently reached out to an independent quarterbacks coach and urged that coach to work with Cutler.

    "We do coach the heck out of him, despite what others might say,'' Martz snapped. "And I have been doing this for 39 years, so I do think we know what we're doing.

    "A quarterbacks coach? That's what I am. That's what I get paid to do.''


    Martz said from the moment he arrived last year, he and Cutler worked extensively on mechanics. For six weeks last offseason, they worked on drops without Cutler throwing a single pass.

    "He comes from kind of a gunslinger, undisciplined kind of a mode in college,'' Martz said. "And then they used him a lot out on the edge in Denver. So what we do with the time throws, it's a little new to him.

    "All those guys I've had in the past, their footwork should all pretty much look the same. They're all consistent. And Jay does a great job with it. There are times in game, though, that he doesn't.''

    Martz is confident Cutler eventually will break his bad habits.

    "He's going to be in the very elite of this league,'' Martz said. "He's on his way. He'll be fine.''

    vxmcclure@tribune.com

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    He will never be an elite qb unless he has a supporting cast. If he has no protection then his career will be cut short.

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    and if and but's were candy and nuts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    and if and but's were candy and nuts...
    That's a stupid response. He's saying he's only gonna be good IF those things happen, and you reply with a phrase which means "not likely". Do you honestly think with our wr's and OL that Jay Cutler can advance further in his career? Guys that miss blocks, get bullrushed back into the QB, or run horrible routes and are oft-prone to slipping, resulting in an INT? Really?

    EDIT: Also, is it not at all disconcerting that Martz says they work on his mechanics to the point where they're "fine" when it's obvious that he still screws up and regresses when his o-line isn't helping him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    and if and but's were candy and nuts...
    You'd be a squirrell?

    Casting that stone is odd for a glass house resident. How many times have you used the words if and/or but when discussing player development?

    4th's comments are valid. This is still a team game, and even you acknowledge that Cutler needs better protection. More help from the WR's wouldn't hurt either.

    Cutler is improving, but he isn't operating in a vacuum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BearStuff View Post
    You'd be a squirrell?

    Casting that stone is odd for a glass house resident. How many times have you used the words if and/or but when discussing player development?

    4th's comments are valid. This is still a team game, and even you acknowledge that Cutler needs better protection. More help from the WR's wouldn't hurt either.

    Cutler is improving, but he isn't operating in a vacuum.
    nope just tired of the constant and over played same tired criticism.. but know its a one way street, got the message... only one way allowed, no retorts got it- guess we will be trading draft choices for free agents , because the bears that incompetant and usless as was claimed already.. guess that is the new level of discourse on football and bears management
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    nope just tired of the constant and over played same tired criticism.. but know its a one way street, got the message... only one way allowed, no retorts got it
    Hypocritical is indeed a two way street, which is why you got the same treatment you doled out.

    Have you not yourself mentioned the need for a better offensive line? Have you not mentioned that said lack of offensive line talent was the reason for Cutler's sacks/hurries/interceptions? Wouldn't those same sacks/hurries/interceptions, if removed, allow for Cutler to play up to his potential?

    See how it works?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    That's a stupid response. He's saying he's only gonna be good IF those things happen, and you reply with a phrase which means "not likely". Do you honestly think with our wr's and OL that Jay Cutler can advance further in his career? Guys that miss blocks, get bullrushed back into the QB, or run horrible routes and are oft-prone to slipping, resulting in an INT? Really?

    EDIT: Also, is it not at all disconcerting that Martz says they work on his mechanics to the point where they're "fine" when it's obvious that he still screws up and regresses when his o-line isn't helping him?
    Yes DO think in the 2nd year in the same syste the team, cutler and Wr's WILL improve, that is a very normal jump th happens in the 2nd year with most systems.. i know.. i know.. it can't happen on bears, just other teams..

    And yeah when for example rodger's went 6-10 in his first year, we all knew that the missed routes, missed blocks and mistakes on packers in 2008 would mean in the future they wouldn't improve or the team would get better, great point! team never get better in the 2nd year, all things stay the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearStuff View Post
    Hypocritical is indeed a two way street, which is why you got the same treatment you doled out.

    Have you not yourself mentioned the need for a better offensive line? Have you not mentioned that said lack of offensive line talent was the reason for Cutler's sacks/hurries/interceptions? Wouldn't those same sacks/hurries/interceptions, if removed, allow for Cutler to play up to his potential?

    See how it works?
    yes, JD you are correct i'm the on;y one here doing it.. got it... its never done to me right..LOLOL.. hypoctisy IS a 2 way street here. why do you only dole it back one way?,.. aww never mind not worth it, we both know it goes now where

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