Facebook Twitter

Page 1 of 20 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 198

Thread: Harris, Hillenmeyer, Shaffer Released

  1. #1
    Banned dabears54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    19,172
    Bear Bucks
    13,967
    Post Thanks / Like

    Bears nearing crossroads with Tommie Harris

    Bears nearing crossroads with Tommie Harris


    By Brad Biggs

    One of the many uncertainties about the NFL's labor situation is what will happen, in the event of a lockout, to players who are due to receive roster bonuses.

    Take, for instance, the case of Chicago Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris. The veteran's status for 2011 isn't known yet and his future is something coach Lovie Smith or general manager Jerry Angelo might shed some light on later this week at the scouting combine in Indianapolis.

    Harris was the first draft pick of the Smith era and the coach always has looked out for him, helping push through a contract extension in June 2008 when some in the organization questioned the player's health and the worthiness of an investment.

    PHOTO GALLERY: Tommie Harris in action

    The Bears appear to be at a crossroads with Harris, who had 18 tackles, two stops for loss and 1 1/2 sacks in 2010. He's due a roster bonus in June of $2.5 million and has a workout bonus of $500,000. That means he stands to collect $3 million before the first snap of training camp. Factor in a base salary of $2,312,500 for 2011 and you know why some believe it's unlikely he'll be around, not at that price anyway.

    But if the Bears don't make a move with Harris before the end of business March 3, and if there's a lockout the next day, what happens if the labor matter isn't resolved until July? The owners and players have been meeting for six days in Washington with hopes of reaching a new collective bargaining agreement before March 3. What if they don't?

    The Bears have concluded organizational meetings at Halas Hall, where they sort through their roster while also laying the groundwork for offseason plans in both free agency and the draft. Surely, they have an idea what they want to do with Harris. There was discussion about releasing him instead of defensive end Alex Brown last year when the club looked to cut costs after adding Julius Peppers.

    For the second straight year, Harris made a late-season push that drew praise from coaches and teammates. He had two sacks in the divisional-round playoff victory over the Seattle Seahawks. But no one would say there was consistency with Harris' game. He plays the signature position in the Cover-2 scheme, the under tackle. And it's not like the Bears have a star in the waiting on the roster to take over for Harris, who was dominant before injuries impacted his play.

    If the Bears have Harris, who turns 28 in April, on the roster after the first week of March, they may be planning to keep him at a price tag of $5.23 million next season. The benefit of having a roster bonus delayed like this is it gives the Bears a chance to explore replacements in both free agency and the draft and then evaluate those players in an offseason setting before having to cut a big check.

    Typically, players have roster bonuses due in March, close to the start of the new league year. That is when safety Chris Harris is due a modest $500,000 roster bonus. The Bears forced Tommie Harris to push back the roster bonuses in his contract, and the calendar would indicate they have time to make a decision. But in this odd year when the offseason itself could be wiped out by a lockout, do the Bears have time to make a decision with the three-time Pro Bowl performer?

    Maybe we'll find out soon. Team aren't certain yet what will happen with offseason bonuses in the event of a lockout. But surely, the Bears must know if Tommie Harris figures in their future.

  • #2
    Banned dabears54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    19,172
    Bear Bucks
    13,967
    Post Thanks / Like
    think they will try and make some settlement and lower salary agreement with harris, but if he refuses do think he will be cut, because they will not pay the 2.5 mll roster bonus. if he came back just for the salary, do think he stays, but not the Rb

  • #3
    Specialist Henry Burris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    15,492
    Bear Bucks
    17,760
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items Trophy
Gift received at 11-03-2011, 03:39 PM from JC23JC23Bears Head Logo
Gift received at 11-02-2011, 07:50 PM from JC23JC23Pitcher O Beer!
Gift received at 10-30-2011, 04:47 PM from GermansbombedPHUsername Bold
Gift received at 05-16-2011, 12:54 PM from BearStuffUsername Bold
Gift received at 03-01-2011, 09:34 AM from dabears54
    I don't think the end of the year was enough to bring him back, as i think he'll look at it as a reason to not take a paycut.


  • #4
    Shits in the woods.
    BigClaws's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    25,771
    Bear Bucks
    12,148
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Guinness
Gift received at 10-18-2011, 08:25 PM from 4th and 26
Message: This will give you a perky dick.Bears C
Gift received at 10-04-2011, 06:53 PM from Bear Goggles
Message: You Username Bold
Gift received at 05-10-2011, 10:27 AM from soulmanUsername Bold
Gift received at 03-27-2011, 09:31 PM from soulmanUsername Bold
Gift received at 01-11-2011, 07:02 PM from Dagan81
    He was never the same after that knee injury.

  • BEAR DOWN! BearStuff, jackiejokeman say BEAR DOWN!
  • #5
    King of Rants GrizzlyBear91's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Illinois.
    Posts
    13,521
    Bear Bucks
    18,389
    Post Thanks / Like
    I say we just cut him and move on. Focus our efforts on Toe, Harrison, any rookie we draft. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Tommie cause he truly was great before that knee inury, and I think THAT has more to do with his lack luster performance than anything but it's time to move on.

  • #6
    Quality... not Quantity Butka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    6,696
    Bear Bucks
    3,525
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items Dick Butkus
Gift received at 11-22-2011, 06:29 PM from gammabears
Message: Bear Down!Username Bold
Gift received at 01-07-2011, 08:40 AM from dabears54
    Sad to see... at one point he was arguably the best DT in the league. I'd say it was him or Haynesworth. Tommie raised hell in the pocket. Talk about a load of talent.

  • BEAR DOWN! BearStuff, GrizzlyBear91 say BEAR DOWN!
  • #7
    Banned dabears54's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    19,172
    Bear Bucks
    13,967
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Butka View Post
    Sad to see... at one point he was arguably the best DT in the league. I'd say it was him or Haynesworth. Tommie raised hell in the pocket. Talk about a load of talent.
    Yep, and that is the "otherside" of football, all players one hit/injury fromnever being the Same- as you said he was arguably the best or top 3 in league at one point before the injuries and will always be a 'what could have been"..you always hate when this happens, as opposed to drugs/bad behaivor for a player that takes him down.And from the player its got to be so sickening KNOWING how good you wee and knowing what you could do- to now just can't do physically you know mentaly could do.

  • #8
    Senior Member WindyCity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    4,185
    Bear Bucks
    27,359
    Post Thanks / Like
    To me this is not a decision at all.

    He is a headache, he is expensive and he does not produce enough to justify him being on the team.

    Even if he offered to play for the vet minimum I would cut him. I would rather have someone who is young and developing then living in the past with Tommie Harris.

    The Patriots would have cut him years ago and that is why they win.

  • BEAR DOWN! 4th and 26, short faced bear say BEAR DOWN!
  • #9
    Senior Member short faced bear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    9,185
    Bear Bucks
    43,263
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items DaBearz MascotTrophy4699Dick Butkus
Gift received at 02-04-2012, 11:13 PM from Dagan81
Message: I bestow upon you the gift of the world's greatest linebacker!
    Cut Harris and Harrison and focus on resigning Adams.
    Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.

    Restore the roar!

  • #10
    Button your face 4th and 26's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    37,070
    Bear Bucks
    25,967
    Trophies
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items Pacifier
Gift received at 10-21-2011, 01:29 PM from BigClaws
Message: Suck it.Jack Daniels
Gift received at 10-18-2011, 08:48 PM from loki520Username Bold
Gift received at 04-18-2011, 10:09 PM from Dagan81Username BoldUsername Bold
    Quote Originally Posted by BigClaws View Post
    He was never the same after that knee injury.
    He was never the same after he signed his huge contract.

  • BEAR DOWN! motownbear say BEAR DOWN!
  • Page 1 of 20 12311 ... LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •