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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Agree its physical with knox, but he can STILL despite the thin frame fight for the ball better, too many times he either "gave up" or didn't even try to knock down an INT or make sure the defender didn't have a shot, and THAT can be controled no matter how thin- sometimes you still may lose the battle to the stronger CB, but he didn't even try sometimes.. that is what fustrated alot of people
    I think they can coach that out of him this coming year. They've already asked him to get stronger so that he is better able to handle the physical aspect of his position. I think Knox has a pretty good attitude and that he's probably very coachable so I expect him to improve on that aspect of his game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Agree its physical with knox, but he can STILL despite the thin frame fight for the ball better, too many times he either "gave up" or didn't even try to knock down an INT or make sure the defender didn't have a shot, and THAT can be controled no matter how thin- sometimes you still may lose the battle to the stronger CB, but he didn't even try sometimes.. that is what fustrated alot of people
    one thing that also worries me is the one constant that is Drake. Under this guy have we seen any WR propel themselves to the next level? Have we seen any route running improvement? That is why I want a more polished number one. I still think we are lacking in talent but my comment is more for the people who think they do have the talent that this could be a legit excuse why things dont improve. Or am I making Drake look more important then what he really is

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    one thing that also worries me is the one constant that is Drake. Under this guy have we seen any WR propel themselves to the next level? Have we seen any route running improvement? That is why I want a more polished number one. I still think we are lacking in talent but my comment is more for the people who think they do have the talent that this could be a legit excuse why things dont improve. Or am I making Drake look more important then what he really is
    I don't know what Drake should own and what he shouldn't but your observations ring true. We've brought in quite a few guys yet none have really turned into number one type guys. But......we've got a nice collection of number twos, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    one thing that also worries me is the one constant that is Drake. Under this guy have we seen any WR propel themselves to the next level? Have we seen any route running improvement? That is why I want a more polished number one. I still think we are lacking in talent but my comment is more for the people who think they do have the talent that this could be a legit excuse why things dont improve. Or am I making Drake look more important then what he really is
    Its a good question, and no sure the answer on how important a WR coach is, but at this point, i'd like to find out, and replace him to see IF does make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    I think they can coach that out of him this coming year. They've already asked him to get stronger so that he is better able to handle the physical aspect of his position. I think Knox has a pretty good attitude and that he's probably very coachable so I expect him to improve on that aspect of his game.
    There's an old saying that says "you can't teach size" and that's where knox becomes a liabilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boochee Man View Post
    There's an old saying that says "you can't teach size" and that's where knox becomes a liabilty.
    There some very good WR's in the NFL who are about Knox size though. Reggie Wayne (a little heavier) and Steve Smith (a little shorter) come to mind. I think Knox will always be a very good WR but never a dominant one but it all depends on how Martz uses him. For a 5th round pick he's been a hell of a steal though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boochee Man View Post
    There's an old saying that says "you can't teach size" and that's where knox becomes a liabilty.
    some of the better wr's in nfl history are knox's size, knox is 6 foot, 185.. here is some others around same size or smaller:

    Issac bruce- 6'0 186

    tory holt 6'0 190

    desean jackson 5'10" 175

    mark duper- 5'9'' 185

    mark clayton 5'9'' 175

    wes welker- 5'9' 190

    jeremy maclin 6' 195

    etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    some of the better wr's in nfl history are knox's size, knox is 6 foot, 185.. here is some others around same size or smaller:

    Issac bruce- 6'0 186

    tory holt 6'0 190

    desean jackson 5'10" 175

    mark duper- 5'9'' 185

    mark clayton 5'9'' 175

    wes welker- 5'9' 190

    jeremy maclin 6' 195

    etc etc
    Which goes to show that what he is lacking, as some seem to believe, is not size

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    some of the better wr's in nfl history are knox's size, knox is 6 foot, 185.. here is some others around same size or smaller:

    Issac bruce- 6'0 186

    tory holt 6'0 190

    desean jackson 5'10" 175

    mark duper- 5'9'' 185

    mark clayton 5'9'' 175

    wes welker- 5'9' 190

    jeremy maclin 6' 195

    etc etc
    Well he seems to get manhandled by physical corners whenever we play some. The receivers you listed know how to avoid the contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boochee Man View Post
    Well he seems to get manhandled by physical corners whenever we play some. The receivers you listed know how to avoid the contact.
    Which, despite his size which as proven is not an issue with other great WR, should show you what his real problem is

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