Thread: Source: Bears place low tender on QB Hanie

Originally Posted by soulman

I don't agree at all. It's Martz's refusal to make a commitment to him or even give him a decent vote of confidence that left JA and Angelo is the position they're left with. There's not reason at all that he should not have been tendered at a 2nd round pick level. We've paid that much to Collins and others who never performed 1/10th as well as Hanie has.

They say he's unproven!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell, he undressed a very good Packer defense in the Championship Game didn't he? What the fvck else does the guy need to prove. I watched this guy play at CSU and he's got the goods to be a very good NFL QB. If they lose Hanie they are complete idiots.

This is all about Martz's insecurties and the need for a vet backup as his "Binky". Who in the hell asked for Collins anyway. I doubt it was Cliff Stein or JA.

as said i'm a fan of hanie's ,, heck got him and bobby douglas to talk about football and scrambling at the bears convention his rookie year, and hope he does great, just saying their is a 'financial" side to this, and think THAT was the deciding factor NOT martz, who I do not think has that kind of pull in the bears front office. Personally would have liked the $2 mill, 2nd round tender if I was doing it.. But i'm not and just gave the financial side , which IMO was the deciding factor.. andwe shall see if he get's an offer

Originally Posted by short faced bear

As opposed to Collins? No it's not even a logical premise comparatively. Hanie has good value both now and in the future. It will take losing him to appreciate that fact.

collins has ZERO to do with this, he's not even on the team anymore, not sure why anyone would compare the 2 now. and personally do think hanie a MUCH better Qb than Collins and he proved that in the NFCC game. but that has zip to do with collins now

Originally Posted by jnastorer

I think this is a calculated risk on their part, but let's not run away with our thoughts on this. They are betting that there is not going to be aFA market for Hanie, that's all. I will guarantee you there won't be interest in him as a starte, adn no one will want to pay him much more than that as a back up.

That is all this is. We won't lose him, unless some knob, like Oakland comes in and offers him 5 million/year. In that case, we would have lost him anyway, we aren't paying that much for him, so, then we can all bemoan the loss of the draft pick. At this point, it is a gamble, but it is a reasonable one.

Exactly!!.. this is NOT about football, just cap space and cap management and what 500+ F/A will be on market

Originally Posted by jnastorer

I think this is a calculated risk on their part, but let's not run away with our thoughts on this. They are betting that there is not going to be aFA market for Hanie, that's all. I will guarantee you there won't be interest in him as a starte, adn no one will want to pay him much more than that as a back up.

That is all this is. We won't lose him, unless some knob, like Oakland comes in and offers him 5 million/year. In that case, we would have lost him anyway, we aren't paying that much for him, so, then we can all bemoan the loss of the draft pick. At this point, it is a gamble, but it is a reasonable one.

Teams are always looking for QB help and paying a good backup $2 mil isn't out of the ballpark as we all know because the Bears paid that much for one who should be washing Hanies's dirty jockstraps and be greatful to do it. My only hope is that if Hanie does get a $2 mil offer that the Bears will match it.

He's the perfect backup and we've also got Matt Gutierrez for a developmental role as a potential 3rd stringer. Screw Mike Martz and his obsession with having a vet as a security blanket.

Finance fact :

We should have started Hanie over Collins in the NFC Championship game and saved...

$2'000'000.00

Which we never needed to spend in the first place.

I'm looking forward to Bulger or some other dead weight... ; )

Dan LeFevour was a sixth rounder...why draft him if you dont keep him?

Originally Posted by jackiejokeman

Dan LeFevour was a sixth rounder...why draft him if you dont keep him?

You DO realize that most of a team's draft picks end up getting cut, right? especially those in the later rounds.

Originally Posted by soulman

Teams are always looking for QB help and paying a good backup $2 mil isn't out of the ballpark as we all know because the Bears paid that much for one who should be washing Hanies's dirty jockstraps and be greatful to do it. My only hope is that if Hanie does get a $2 mil offer that the Bears will match it.

He's the perfect backup and we've also got Matt Gutierrez for a developmental role as a potential 3rd stringer. Screw Mike Martz and his obsession with having a vet as a security blanket.

And maybe that is the plan Soul, to match any offer.. and if he gets none, bears made the smart choice at $1.2 mill to save cap space.. because they were going to match an offer... Think about it.. why pay more if going to match?.. only thing that giving the lower offer vs $2 mill is the draft pick, which ONLY comes into consideration if letting him go.. if do not "know" the market for hanie or not sure in the New CBA climate if he will get an offer, why not go #1.2 mill and let the market dcide different, and if thre isn't a bigger market you made the right choice and if is, you are matching anyway..

Finance fact :

We should have started Hanie over Collins in the NFC Championship game and saved...

actually that's a football. not a financal fact.. and FWIW agree 100% with it.. actually had thought hanie was the #2 Qb after the carolina debacle and we would NEVER see collins again in 2010...was shocked when collins went out there.. FWIW

Originally Posted by dabears54

And maybe that is the plan Soul, to match any offer.. and if he gets none, bears made the smart choice at $1.2 mill to save cap space.. because they were going to match an offer... Think about it.. why pay more if going to match?.. only thing that giving the lower offer vs $2 mill is the draft pick, which ONLY comes into consideration if letting him go.. if do not "know" the market for hanie or not sure in the New CBA climate if he will get an offer, why not go #1.2 mill and let the market dcide different, and if thre isn't a bigger market you made the right choice and if is, you are matching anyway..

This is precisely what I meant. If he gets an offer, we can match, that way the market sets his value as opposed to us over paying when it is not necessary. Played perfectly in that case, barring any 5 mil offers from Oakland or some other yokal that is nuts.