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What should the Bears draft with their #1?
Now, this saying all things being equal. Obviously there might be an OL, or DT that slips that we simply can't pass up, and FA being able to at least temporarily solve one problem, what position do you want the Bears to address the most?
EDIT: Plus, it'll be interesting to see where the majority lands on this issue.
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To me it all depends on what we do in FA and how the first round breaks. There are good players at both OT and DT and as long as we fill one spot in the first and another in the second I should be happy. I think we can fill the OG/C spot in FA and a bigger WR there as well.
To me CB and LB come a bit lower on the needs list and we can find some help there in the middle rounds (3-5). Anyone we choose would likely begin his career on STs anyway. Maybe in the 6th we take a flier on a DE or Olineman who has some upside.
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best player available from our three biggest needs DT, WR, OT. I see FA as having some pretty good olinemen. I see adequate not great wrs in FA. And I see DT lacking in FA. So I prob would make DT my first pick in the draft. I dont feel confident drafting WR num one cause we havent developed a number one quality wr whether it is because JA cant identify one or Drake sucks balls.
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Honestly, I don't see how the release of Tommy Harris all of the sudden made DT a pressing need. We still have a servicible rotation there and I wouldn't put it in our top three as far as need goes. Especially if you break the Oline apart into position.
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Originally Posted by
blinddeafmute
Honestly, I don't see how the release of Tommy Harris all of the sudden made DT a pressing need. We still have a servicible rotation there and I wouldn't put it in our top three as far as need goes. Especially if you break the Oline apart into position.
What we have now at DT are mostly NT types (Adams, Harrison) and maybe one guy (Toeina) who can play that UT position but he isn't anywhere near as good a pass rusher as we need at that spot. Our best bet maybe Melton if he can step up his pressure game this year but he's more of a rotational guy just like Toeina.
I don't think any of these guy can match up with a young Tommie Harris and that's what we need.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
What we have now at DT are mostly NT types (Adams, Harrison) and maybe one guy (Toeina) who can play that UT position but he isn't anywhere near as good a pass rusher as we need at that spot. Our best bet maybe Melton if he can step up his pressure game this year but he's more of a rotational guy just like Toeina.
I don't think any of these guy can match up with a young Tommie Harris and that's what we need.
True, none of them are a young Tommy Harris. I doubt that anyone we draft will be either. Tommy didn't play any better than anyone else last year, and we were a great run stopping team and our D was top 5.
Our O, however was at the bottom of the heap. We spent a ton of draft picks on a pro-bowl caliber QB and have surrounded him with crap.
Do we need a UT? Yeah, but not anywhere as much as we need 2 guards and a tackle, a WR and a CB.
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Originally Posted by
blinddeafmute
True, none of them are a young Tommy Harris. I doubt that anyone we draft will be either. Tommy didn't play any better than anyone else last year, and we were a great run stopping team and our D was top 5.
Our O, however was at the bottom of the heap. We spent a ton of draft picks on a pro-bowl caliber QB and have surrounded him with crap.
Do we need a UT? Yeah, but not anywhere as much as we need 2 guards and a tackle, a WR and a CB.
Don't see any WR's or CB's worth that 29th pick. The top guys will be gone long before that. Besides there are proven WR's to look at in FA and I don't know that we'd ever draft a CB that high so long as Lovie is HC. Except for Tillman I've never seen a high pick start immediately at CB. Someone like Bowman, J. Moore or Graham needs to step up their play and tie that spot down.
There seem to be an abundance of OG's available in FA as well. Typically OG's don't command a first round rating either and there should be some decent OG/C prospects left in the second and third rounds.
That leaves us with OT and DT one of which may be filled in FA and the other becomes the first round pick. Personally I don't care which direction we go as long as we get the guy we target. If that guy goes several picks in front of us and we have to settle for second best again I'm gonna be pissed.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
Don't see any WR's or CB's worth that 29th pick. The top guys will be gone long before that. Besides there are proven WR's to look at in FA and I don't know that we'd ever draft a CB that high so long as Lovie is HC. Except for Tillman I've never seen a high pick start immediately at CB. Someone like Bowman, J. Moore or Graham needs to step up their play and tie that spot down.
There seem to be an abundance of OG's available in FA as well. Typically OG's don't command a first round rating either and there should be some decent OG/C prospects left in the second and third rounds.
That leaves us with OT and DT one of which may be filled in FA and the other becomes the first round pick. Personally I don't care which direction we go as long as we get the guy we target. If that guy goes several picks in front of us and we have to settle for second best again I'm gonna be pissed.
I was commenting more on Motown's comment about our three biggest needs, and listing DT in our top three. I am not opposed to drafting a DT in the first round (especially if we pick up some good Olinemen in FA).
As far as "need" goes, I would list it like this. OGx2, OTx1, WR, C, CB, DT.
I understand that draft strategy comes into play, and we might have to use our #1 to get the best DT because a G would still be available at our #2, so on and so forth.
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saying we dont need a NT is Lovie logic that killed our defense after the superbowl up until his ego dissolved and Anthony Adams finally was allowed to play that role. It isnt a coincidence having a proper dline helped bring back the defense to being relevant again. We arent just losing Harris we lost Adams also so DT is a main concern. The dbs in this system are going to be as good as the pressure our dline can produce.
as for the offense I think JA is going to patch it up in the oline cause we are already young there and need a vet presence. Also we have shown a failure in developing talent anyways so might as well get the polished product. Especially when considering we dont know what kind of offseason these rooks will get to learn the playbook since there will be a lockout
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Originally Posted by
blinddeafmute
Honestly, I don't see how the release of Tommy Harris all of the sudden made DT a pressing need. We still have a servicible rotation there and I wouldn't put it in our top three as far as need goes. Especially if you break the Oline apart into position.
I've always seen a 3 technique as a big need... long before the release of Tommie. This defense needs to do a better job at collapsing the pocket from the inside. There were times when Peppers was the only one generating any rush at all. That needs to be fixed.
To answer the OP's question. I'm fine with either 3 tech or OL being addressed with the first pick. And depending on the guy, I wouldn't be totally pissed at a WR or corner (if we decide to run tighter coverage like we did late in the season) either. But I'd list 3 technique and OL as our biggest concerns.
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