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    Robbie Gould: Bears players will be very unit

    Robbie Gould: Bears players will be very united

    March 11, 2011 7:02 PM | 3 Comments

    By Fred Mitchell

    United they will stand, insists Chicago Bears player representative Robbie Gould.

    In an interview with the Tribune Friday night, Gould said Bears players will not become divided if a prolonged work stoppage ensues following the union's decision to decertify.

    "I really don't," said Gould. "I think everyone understands the impact that the owners tried to do with mediation for 16 days. Obviously, they didn't want to make any concessions. At this point, everyone understands the ramifications of decertification. I think everyone in the locker room will be very united. I don't really foresee unity being a problem with the players."

    Gould believes the owners have failed to bargain in good faith to this point.

    "It's unfortunate it had to get to this point. Obviously, as players we don't feel as though the deal disclosed to us was the right deal," he said. "I don't think the owners were in any way, shape or form looking to get a deal done. They hired (NFL negotiator) Bob Batterman for a reason. And this is the reason they decided to do it...to try to lock us out.

    "We decertified as a union. Other than that, it's really going to happen. At this point, decertification was a must as a union. Now we will go along with the processes. We have to file anti-trust violations. Hopefully we can get a deal down the road."

    Gould was planning to communicate the latest developments to his teammates.

    "I haven't yet, but I will be sending out an e-mail (Friday) night or (Saturday morning, once I get more information," said Gould. "For us as player reps and those guys on the team...we will be united throughout the whole process. "

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    Inside the NFL Lockout with Hunter Hillenmeyer

    For a couple weeks now, I have been planning on writing for nbcchicago.com's Grizzly Detail in the event of a lockout. While I obviously hoped it would not come to this, that a new deal would get worked out before we got to this point, none of us have been so lucky.

    In truth, I was not planning to post my first blog until Monday. I am out of town visiting family and figured there would certainly be enough noise surrounding our decertification that my two cents would hardly stand out.

    However, after watching and hearing from some of the people representing ownership, I simply could not help myself.

    However long this labor dispute lasts, let me lay down a few guidelines that will hold true for any post I make to this site. I will never lie. I will never mislead. I will never state anything as fact that I do not explicitly know to be true.

    While my natural bias in these negotiations, as a player who has been actively involved in these proceedings, will affect my perspective, I hope to offer fans, more than anything, the most accurate depiction I can of how things are actually developing.
    When I watch Jeff Pash, head negotiator for the NFL and ownership, go on national television and poison any atmosphere of mutual best interest that has existed to this point, I feel compelled to speak out. That man is, at best, intentionally shrouding the real interactions that took place in negotiations and, at worst, lying through the camera to millions of hardworking NFL fans.

    This negotiation has been going on for two years. I have read every detail of multiple separate proposals from NFLPA leadership during that time. Until this week, the NFL made no meaningful counterproposals to its original stance from months and months ago.
    We, the NFLPA, were negotiating with a brick wall. For Mr. Pash to depict the ultimate failure by both sides to reach an agreement as a coup d'état by the players is just irresponsible.

    Please know that I do not expect fans to take sides. I have been a player in this league for eight years, but I've been a fan all my life. I want football just like everyone out there reading this post does.

    The choice by the NFLPA to decertify was not taken lightly. It was not part of a carefully crafted litigation scheme to take down the NFL. Rather, this choice was our last ditch effort in trying to find a way reach a fair deal when all other options had been exhausted.

    In future posts, expect less name-calling and more substance of what is actively being done to end the first NFL work stoppage since 1987.

    Trust me, there are players and even some owners who are just as annoyed as you are that it has come to this.

    Let's hope my career as a blogger is very short-lived, and that the game we all love can settle this labor dispute sooner rather than later.

    BY Hunter Hillenmeyer // Friday, Mar 11, 2011 at 08:59 CST


    Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/griz...#ixzz1GOANuW9H

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    think for some balance bob legere put it best:

    Congrats, NFL: Greed, deception and deceit all win out

    NFL players and owners got exactly what they've wanted for more than two years — a work stoppage.


    The losers, as usual, are the fans, who will undoubtedly come running back as soon as there is an agreement, but that probably won't be for months. The misplaced loyalty of those fans is what emboldens both sides to dig their heels in and demand more money.

    They know the fans will come back.



    They always do.



    The winners are greed and deception and deceit, which are in abundance on both sides.
    Who's to blame for the current situation that some are already predicting will cause regular-season games to be canceled?



    Both sides.



    If you want to blame the millionaire players — their average salary is $2.6 million a year — that's fine. They walked away from the bargaining table when the owners refused their demand of full financial disclosure from the past 10 years.



    Or blame the billionaire owners. The game has never been more popular or profitable. The owners already take $1 billion off the top of the $9.3 billion in revenue that the game creates for, among other things, new stadiums or improvements to existing stadiums that are in many cases at least partially financed by the public. They wanted another $1 billion and “magnanimously” said they'd split the difference.



    Labor talks broke down just hours before the latest contract extension expired Friday at 11 p.m. CDT. The union had until 4 p.m. on Friday to decertify, which many are convinced they and their executive director DeMaurice Smith had planned to do from the beginning. Without a union, the NFLPA becomes a trade association, and it's left to individual players to take legal action against the owners. Several of them, including Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, have put their names to the suit.



    There have been hopeful words from some owners and from Commissioner Roger Goodell, who predict a return to negotiations and no interruption of regular-season games. Others, who don't have an agenda to further, paint a bleaker picture.



    Former Bears first-round draft pick and Pro Bowl defensive end Trace Armstrong played 15 years in the NFL and was president of the NFLPA for eight years. He was a finalist for the executive director position and is now an agent.



    I ran into Armstrong in Indianapolis during the Scouting Combine last month and asked him when he honestly thought the labor dispute would be settled.



    His reply was a fatalistic: “In September.”



    Despite 16 days of negotiations with a federal mediator — and previous months of stop-and-start, almost totally unproductive bargaining — the sides could not agree on a new deal. The league said it hadn't decided whether or not to lock out the players, who, meanwhile, went to court to request an injunction to block such a move.



    By dissolving and announcing it no longer represents the players in collective bargaining, the NFL Players Association cleared the way for class-action lawsuits against the NFL, which opted out of the CBA in 2008.



    “We met with the owners until about 4 o'clock (Eastern time) today,” union head Smith said outside the mediator's office. “We discussed a proposal they had presented. At this time, significant differences continue to remain. We informed the owners that ... if there was going to be a request for an extension, that we asked for 10 years of audited financial information to accompany that extension.”



    About 15 minutes later, the union decertified.



    “No one is happy where we are now,” NFL lead negotiator Jeff Pash said. “I think we know where the commitment was. It was a commitment to litigate all along.”




    A league statement added: “The union left a very good deal on the table.”



    In addition to splitting the difference in the original request for an additional $1 billion up front, the deal would, according to the league allow for:



    • Maintaining the 16 regular-season games and four preseason games for at least two years, with any changes negotiable.
    • Instituting a rookie wage scale through which money saved would be paid to veterans and retired players.
    • Creating new year-round health and safety rules.
    • Establishing a fund for retired players, with $82 million contributed by the owners over the next two years.
    • Financial disclosure of audited league and club profitability information that is not even shared with the NFL clubs. That was proposed by the NFL this week, and rejected by the union, which began insisting in May 2009 for a complete look at the books of all 32 clubs.



    When Commissioner Roger Goodell, Pash, and owners Jerry Jones of the Cowboys, Jerry Richardson of the Panthers and John Mara of the Giants emerged from Cohen's office shortly after 5 p.m., they sounded hopeful that negotiations would soon resume.



    “We are prepared to come back here any time the union is ready to come back here,” Pash said.
    That might not be for a long time.



    In the meantime, the most popular sport in the country will be in the hands of lawyers. That can't be a good thing.
    Associated Press contributed



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