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Still think it's a waste of a workout, but this is MUCH less of a waste than with Dalton since it's a 7/UDFA guy. You guys know I'm a UNC fan (mostly because I have loved watching Butch Davis' D recruits), so I have seen a heck of a lot of Yates. His arm isn't LeGirlyarm bad, but I don't think he can make all the NFL throws. If we are looking for that late round flyer, I'm a big fan of Enderle and Potts' arms. Maybe Martz wants a guy like him or McElroy who have a ton of experience taking snaps from under center.
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soulman 
I don't necessarily agree with you on this. Somtimes even the #1 spot isn't decided until training camp and then again sometimes both numbers one and two are pretty much foregone conclusion. I believe that's what we have here. He doesn't have to annoint him as the #2 but a vote of confidence might be helpful right now.
He is a tendered RFA but it still would be nice for Martz to shove a little compliment in his direction since you already know they'll bring in at least one more body at QB.
Cutler is the #1 as long as he can draw breath. As far as a vote of confidence... Name me another #2 like Hanie that ahs gotten one this year from his OC. And I'm talking teams with unquestioned starters, not the 49ers or Panthers.
I'm not going to start with the heavy sarcasm and go off about Martz taking out an ad in the Sun Times praising Hanie for his 1/4 of play against the Packers prevent.
But with free agency still hanging you can't risk the chance of getting a Bulger to come in by making pre-mature statements about a guy who very well may not play for you next year.
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Bears taking look at QBs for draft
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...0,604585.story
Yates, Dalton, Scott Tolzien and Enderle all getting personal treatment
The Bears' short-lived and ultimately failed experiment with a rookie quarterback last year hasn't changed their desire to get a developmental player in the pipeline.
In fact, maybe the four-month fling with sixth-round draft pick Dan LeFevour, the record-setter from Central Michigan, has increased the franchise's desire to try it again and get it right. LeFevour didn't perform well but the plan was to keep him on the practice squad. But then the Bengals scooped him up.
The Bears put North Carolina quarterback T.J. Yates through a private workout Tuesday. They will do the same with TCU's Andy Dalton on Thursday. Offensive coordinator Mike Martz has checked out Wisconsin's Scott Tolzien and Idaho's Nathan Enderle at pro days.
What does the Bears' homework on draft prospects mean for backup Caleb Hanie? Maybe nothing. But it could indicate he will be locked into the No. 2 role behind Jay Cutler when the labor situation is resolved. Few teams would want to keep a fourth-year pro as a developmental guy.
If Martz isn't comfortable making Hanie No. 2 now, will he ever be? The Bears can't add a more experienced veteran, keep Hanie and stash a drafted quarterback on the 53-man roster. They also can't gamble sneaking a quarterback through waivers to the practice squad without risking a draft pick again.
The Bears' focus isn't just on passers. Offensive line coach Mike Tice attended Florida's pro day, getting an up-close look at guard/center Mike Pouncey, who the Bears might need to trade up from No. 29 in the first round to select. Gators offensive tackle Marcus Gilbert is another highly rated prospect and Carl Johnson and Maurice Hurt are possible late-round picks.
League sources also told the Tribune the Bears conducted private workouts for Boise State wide receiver Austin Pettis and Cal running back Shane Vereen.
Wide receiver is a need for the Bears but the team figures to look to both lines and maybe cornerback before prioritizing a target for Cutler. Vereen is an intriguing prospect who many target to go in the second or third round, likely too high for the Bears to consider.
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WE DON'T NEED A QUARTERBACK!!!!!!! Draft neons F'n O-linemen
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The Benjamin WE DON'T NEED A QUARTERBACK!!!!!!! Draft neons F'n O-linemen
Then who is going to take over for Jay when he goes on IR?
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Originally Posted by
soulman I don't necessarily agree with you on this. Somtimes even the #1 spot isn't decided until training camp and then again sometimes both numbers one and two are pretty much foregone conclusion. I believe that's what we have here. He doesn't have to annoint him as the #2 but a vote of confidence might be helpful right now.
He is a tendered RFA but it still would be nice for Martz to shove a little compliment in his direction since you already know they'll bring in at least one more body at QB.
yeah, not sure why Martz would just say that, as all evidence points to that...and these guys are likely UDFA's, so looking for a guy to ask after the draft done and a camp arm
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lklrlolnlilklsox Still think it's a waste of a workout, but this is MUCH less of a waste than with Dalton since it's a 7/UDFA guy. You guys know I'm a UNC fan (mostly because I have loved watching Butch Davis' D recruits), so I have seen a heck of a lot of Yates. His arm isn't LeGirlyarm bad, but I don't think he can make all the NFL throws. If we are looking for that late round flyer, I'm a big fan of Enderle and Potts' arms. Maybe Martz wants a guy like him or McElroy who have a ton of experience taking snaps from under center.
Camp arms and Practice Squad guy you need. And agree rather have enderle's upside over yates
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GlobeOfFrogs Cutler is the #1 as long as he can draw breath. As far as a vote of confidence... Name me another #2 like Hanie that ahs gotten one this year from his OC. And I'm talking teams with unquestioned starters, not the 49ers or Panthers.
I'm not going to start with the heavy sarcasm and go off about Martz taking out an ad in the Sun Times praising Hanie for his 1/4 of play against the Packers prevent.
But with free agency still hanging you can't risk the chance of getting a Bulger to come in by making pre-mature statements about a guy who very well may not play for you next year.
What I said about a #1 sometimes not being decided until camp wasn't referring to the Bears specifically. I was talking in general that some teams hold open competition for the #1 spot with the loser becoming the backup and on some teams both spots are pretty much tied up before the team ever hits training camp. This is one of those instances where that could happen.
No sarcasm? What was it then when you make a comment about something as ridiculous as Martz putting an ad in the Sun Times if it wasn't being sarcastic. You're well aware that's not what I'm talking about when I use the term "vote of confidence".
Hanie has done far more than just play a great 1/4 of a game against the Packers. He's performed very well in preseason too. The guy has a very good head on his shoulders and apparently enough to knowlege of Martz's offense to come into a championship game under pressure, with no pre-game preparation, and almost snatch a victory from defeat. He has a good arm, can make the neccessary throws, and has pretty good mobility and the ability to make plays with his feet. What more can you ask for.
I really don't care what Marc Bulger or any other FA QB thinks. We don't need Marc Bulger and his $2 mil price tag anyway. It shouldn't even be a consideration. All you'd get is another version of Todd Collins. Bulger may know the offense but he's a frickin statue in the pocket. If we do talk with vet FA's it should be understood that Hanie has the inside track to the #2 spot and that they'd have to win it from him. If they bring in another vet and immediately install him as the #2 I'll shoot Martz myself.
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dabears54 yeah, not sure why Martz would just say that, as all evidence points to that...and these guys are likely UDFA's, so looking for a guy to ask after the draft done and a camp arm
Exactly! How it came across was that he was annoyed with the question and didn't want to commit in any way to Hanie having the inside track. I don't want to lose Hanie by having him feel he doesn't have the support of his coach. That's exactly how we ended up with Jay Cutler.
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little bear The paragraph about Martz and his opinion of Hanie is exactly what I was talking about in another tread. If he's not ready to commit to him now when will he ever be? What more can the guy do to win a vote of confidence from him. Hanie should be the #2 period.
Bringing in a vet like Bulger makes no sense at all. Besides the $2 mil we overpay for him the guy is a statue in the backfield on a team that needs a mobile QB. He's just another expensive vet we really don't need to backup our very capable starters. IMO we did enough of that last year.
The fact that they already have Gutierrez on the roster and are seriously looking for a rookie late rounder or UDFA pretty much tells the tale. Whether or not Mike Martz is happy with it all signs point to Hanie as the #2. I don't know much about Yates or Enderle and Dalton will be gone long before the 5th or 6th round, which is early as we should pick one IMO. I've seen enough Badger games to have gotten the impression that Scott Tolzien could become a decent journeyman type QB in the pros.
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