New kickoff rule hurts hester/chicago

**dabears54** · 03-25-2011, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Dagan81

Who wrote that article, DB? It is dead on. I am not sold on the notion that we are going to be a worse team - the media constantly makes us out to be bad when, in fact, we made it all the way to the NFC Championship Game and could have won it had Cutler not been forced to sit out due to his left knee. If we have an offensive line that produces during the course of the season, I see the Bears winning a lot of games in a much more conventional way - by the offense doing most of the work.

david haugh- and agree do not think the rule will mean less wins that's silly- but hate the rule becuase does make the game less exciting

**Dagan81** · 03-25-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by dabears54

david haugh- and agree do not think the rule will mean less wins that's silly- but hate the rule becuase does make the game less exciting

I agree DB. Most of Hester's returns tend to come on punts, so 75-80% of his kick returns, provided that we resign and leave Danieal Manning to man the kickoffs, will remain untouched unless the league screws things up further by forcing the ball to be kicked further behind the final down marker of an offensive series.

**dabears54** · 03-28-2011, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I agree DB. Most of Hester's returns tend to come on punts, so 75-80% of his kick returns, provided that we resign and leave Danieal Manning to man the kickoffs, will remain untouched unless the league screws things up further by forcing the ball to be kicked further behind the final down marker of an offensive series.

its a stupid rule that bet nex year gets reversed back to the 30 when te media complains about 'boring" kickoff's and touchbacks

**Dagan81** · 03-29-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by dabears54

its a stupid rule that bet nex year gets reversed back to the 30 when te media complains about 'boring" kickoff's and touchbacks

One can only hope that the NFL owners will get their heads screwed on completely straight over the CBA shit (as well as the players) and, second, reverse the rule on kicking from the 35 back to kicking at the 30.

Wasn't the new rule in place a long time ago, though, DB?

**dabears54** · 03-30-2011, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dagan81

One can only hope that the NFL owners will get their heads screwed on completely straight over the CBA shit (as well as the players) and, second, reverse the rule on kicking from the 35 back to kicking at the 30.

Wasn't the new rule in place a long time ago, though, DB?

in 1994 the kickoff's moved from the 35 to the 30

**Dagan81** · 03-30-2011, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by dabears54

in 1994 the kickoff's moved from the 35 to the 30

By what percentage, if you know this offhand, did the number of kickoffs result in a return for a touchdown increase? Are we absolutely sure that we will no longer have a competitive advantage against our competition? We will still obviously have it in punt returns, but with our blockiing capabilities on kickoffs and Hester's and Manning's speed, I have to believe that we still average getting to the 30 yard line or better on kickoffs, which is still a positive.

**dabears54** · 03-31-2011, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by Dagan81

By what percentage, if you know this offhand, did the number of kickoffs result in a return for a touchdown increase? Are we absolutely sure that we will no longer have a competitive advantage against our competition? We will still obviously have it in punt returns, but with our blockiing capabilities on kickoffs and Hester's and Manning's speed, I have to believe that we still average getting to the 30 yard line or better on kickoffs, which is still a positive.

Its a strange stat, because at first it did reduce he # of td's and then leveled off though late90's and early 2000's, but in the last 3 years the td's and big return's have exploded in the NFl( and not just hester), 2007 and 2010 the 2 biggest years in nfl history for returns

**Dagan81** · 03-31-2011, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by dabears54

Its a strange stat, because at first it did reduce he # of td's and then leveled off though late90's and early 2000's, but in the last 3 years the td's and big return's have exploded in the NFl( and not just hester), 2007 and 2010 the 2 biggest years in nfl history for returns

I am not going to worry about the rule. This will just make it that much more imperative for the Bears to go out and upgrade their offense. They have to become more like the other competitive teams who rely so heavily on their offenses to stay in the hunt for divisional, conference, and Super Bowl championships. This may be what makes or breaks Jerry Angelo's career since he has been so heavily slanted in drafting solid defensive players versus a lot of offensive talent (with the exception of Matt Forte, Greg Olsen, and Johnny Knox).

**dabears54** · 04-01-2011, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Dagan81

I am not going to worry about the rule. This will just make it that much more imperative for the Bears to go out and upgrade their offense. They have to become more like the other competitive teams who rely so heavily on their offenses to stay in the hunt for divisional, conference, and Super Bowl championships. This may be what makes or breaks Jerry Angelo's career since he has been so heavily slanted in drafting solid defensive players versus a lot of offensive talent (with the exception of Matt Forte, Greg Olsen, and Johnny Knox).

Toub will figure it out and to me- just means be it hester, manning or knox will be returning kicks from deep in endzone as opposed to touchbacks because the risk.reward there..

**Dagan81** · 04-01-2011, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by dabears54

Toub will figure it out and to me- just means be it hester, manning or knox will be returning kicks from deep in endzone as opposed to touchbacks because the risk.reward there..

This is true, but we still need to address the offense. But I do agree - Toub has the potential to be an innovative ST coach.

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