Facebook Twitter

Page 2 of 11 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 106

Thread: The Bears Draft Board [Player Rankings]

  1. #11
    Mello Jello soulman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    PEYTON'S PLACE
    Posts
    23,002
    Bear Bucks
    40,812
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 11-07-2012, 07:28 AM from GermansbombedPH
Message: Better than that soap water guniessTequilla
Gift received at 09-22-2012, 10:24 AM from Riczaj01
Message: downhere in Northern Mexico(aka San Antonio Texas), we tend to share this....not my personal favorite, but I'm definately in the minority.Trophy
Gift received at 01-30-2012, 01:48 PM from Dagan81
Message: Because you're the best God damn poster on this message board!  And, a true friend at that!9599
    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    great post soul. The only things keeping me in the first round at this point is Carimi, Costanoz, Liuget, Pouncy(if Kreutz gets the boot), and if cant find a trade down partner Paea. I wouldnt be trading up I dont think we have the resources for that we actually need more bodies. Anything that will free up cash to get some FAs should be an option imo. We are built to win now not 3 years from now with some great player that wont be around the next few years. I dont think we can afford projects like Sherrod, Sodler, Wilkerson etc...But if I was to take on a project I would take oline over dline any day. It is just has a better success rate and I think Tice can get the most out of a player more so then Marinelli. I think Marinelli can couch great talent but I dont think he can make something out of nothing
    Thanks mo! Out of those 5 guys that you mentioned I'm pretty certain that one of them should be there at #29. The toughest decison between any two would be the one between Carimi and Liuget but I'd guess we'd go with Carimi it that was the case.

    Now if both Carimi and Liuget are gone and Olin re-signs for another two years, which he probably will, who would you take between Pouncey and Paea? To me that's the second toughest decision and maybe the one more likely to have to be made.

    After that the next drop down probably comes down to Sherrod or Gilbert vs Austin somewhere in the second but I couldn't see us trading down very far. Are Sherrod, Gilbert, or Austin worth a top 10 second round pick?

    As for Solder or Wilkerson I have no desire to see either of them in navy and orange and I think Costonzo will be gone before we pick. That still leaves us with some pretty decent talent to choose from. Carimi or Liuget a bargain if they get to us, Pouncey or Paea fair value at #29, and the others probably ok for 2nd rounders.

    On the Tice vs Marinelli Oline vs Dline I'd agree with you. Tice did wonders making chocolate out of shit but it took Peppers to really get that pass rush up a notch. The other factor is the old adage that whenever you get a chance at that penetrating type 3t DT who can drop runners in the backfield and create pressure up the middle, you take him. Those guys are even harder to find than good OT's.

  • #12
    waiting on 2011 season
    motownbear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    18,451
    Bear Bucks
    25,914
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 05-23-2012, 09:00 PM from Riczaj01
Message: better make that a double. db54..damn it still hurtsOld Style
Gift received at 05-23-2012, 09:00 PM from Riczaj01
Message: thanks for your supportFlowers
Gift received at 10-18-2011, 08:22 PM from 4th and 26
Message: Smoke this sir puffs a lot.  lolUsername Bold
Gift received at 05-18-2011, 10:12 AM from dabears54Username Bold
Gift received at 01-03-2011, 10:16 AM from n34footbalislife
    I would definitly take Liuget over any olinemen available if he is there. My main concern is if we miss on DT in the draft.....FA emergency options are pretty shitty. Plenty of NT options in FA but 3 tech noone really stand out to me. The oline there will be RT and G options in FA plus JA has reiterated time and again and we have seen it in drafting when he has had shots at pretty good Gs in the draft he passes on them and doesnt vvalue the position as much thinking he can get them later. If Olin re-signs we prob wont see a C prospect drafted until rounds 4-6 which is the right move if we stick with Olin. Lots of tough choices to make cause of the labor dispute but we are sitting with a decent amount of cash to fix mistakes just as long as when the time comes those FA dont just flock to their original teams

  • #13
    Mello Jello soulman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    PEYTON'S PLACE
    Posts
    23,002
    Bear Bucks
    40,812
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 11-07-2012, 07:28 AM from GermansbombedPH
Message: Better than that soap water guniessTequilla
Gift received at 09-22-2012, 10:24 AM from Riczaj01
Message: downhere in Northern Mexico(aka San Antonio Texas), we tend to share this....not my personal favorite, but I'm definately in the minority.Trophy
Gift received at 01-30-2012, 01:48 PM from Dagan81
Message: Because you're the best God damn poster on this message board!  And, a true friend at that!9599
    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    I would definitly take Liuget over any olinemen available if he is there. My main concern is if we miss on DT in the draft.....FA emergency options are pretty shitty. Plenty of NT options in FA but 3 tech noone really stand out to me. The oline there will be RT and G options in FA plus JA has reiterated time and again and we have seen it in drafting when he has had shots at pretty good Gs in the draft he passes on them and doesnt vvalue the position as much thinking he can get them later. If Olin re-signs we prob wont see a C prospect drafted until rounds 4-6 which is the right move if we stick with Olin. Lots of tough choices to make cause of the labor dispute but we are sitting with a decent amount of cash to fix mistakes just as long as when the time comes those FA dont just flock to their original teams
    I'm thinking Liuget too. Worse comes to worse we move CWill back to LT and give him the year to tie it down. Meanwhile we look at OT's in both second, maybe Ijilana or Gilbert, and try to get one in FA. Out of CWill, a draftee, a FA, and maybe Webb we should be able to find someone whose a major improvement over OMG.

    OG/C prospects can wait until mid rounds as you said. For my part I'd like to see us grab to top guy on their board at CB/WR/LB whichever, before we draft for the line again. After the third they should just go BPA for what ever we haven't covered in the first three. OG/C, WR, CB, LB, even a RB.

  • #14
    Senior Member WindyCity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    4,187
    Bear Bucks
    27,936
    Post Thanks / Like
    Derek Sherrod will be a 1st round pick.

    Derek Sherrod could be the 3rd OT taken in the draft.

    Derek Sherrod could very easily be gone by the time the Bears pick at 29.

    I do not know why everyone is so down on Sherrod and apparently he is climbing most boards after his Pro Day.

  • #15
    Mello Jello soulman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    PEYTON'S PLACE
    Posts
    23,002
    Bear Bucks
    40,812
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 11-07-2012, 07:28 AM from GermansbombedPH
Message: Better than that soap water guniessTequilla
Gift received at 09-22-2012, 10:24 AM from Riczaj01
Message: downhere in Northern Mexico(aka San Antonio Texas), we tend to share this....not my personal favorite, but I'm definately in the minority.Trophy
Gift received at 01-30-2012, 01:48 PM from Dagan81
Message: Because you're the best God damn poster on this message board!  And, a true friend at that!9599
    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    Derek Sherrod will be a 1st round pick.

    Derek Sherrod could be the 3rd OT taken in the draft.

    Derek Sherrod could very easily be gone by the time the Bears pick at 29.

    I do not know why everyone is so down on Sherrod and apparently he is climbing most boards after his Pro Day.
    Well if we pick Liuget in the first than it becomes a non-issue and that's what mo and I were discussing. We both think we'd be better off taking Liuget than an OT. Then we get an OT or OG in round two. If we don't score an OT in the draft then it will be at the top of the list in FA.

    I know Sherrod's stock is rising and maybe he will go before #29 or maybe he won't. I just don't think he's the guy we want playing LT.

  • #16
    waiting on 2011 season
    motownbear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    18,451
    Bear Bucks
    25,914
    Post Thanks / Like
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 05-23-2012, 09:00 PM from Riczaj01
Message: better make that a double. db54..damn it still hurtsOld Style
Gift received at 05-23-2012, 09:00 PM from Riczaj01
Message: thanks for your supportFlowers
Gift received at 10-18-2011, 08:22 PM from 4th and 26
Message: Smoke this sir puffs a lot.  lolUsername Bold
Gift received at 05-18-2011, 10:12 AM from dabears54Username Bold
Gift received at 01-03-2011, 10:16 AM from n34footbalislife
    Iwould like to add I look at football players playing football not being workout warriors. When analysing a player you cant fall into the Al Davis traps. All the athleticism in the world has done jack shit for Chris Williams in three years. There is more tale to the tape then a shuttle run.

    Another thing to consider for guys who "fly up the boards" is agent influence. These draft gurus get perks from these guys and favors to bump up "their guy". These gurus had everyone thinking mike williams was a top ten talent after not playing a year.

  • #17
    Mello Jello soulman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    PEYTON'S PLACE
    Posts
    23,002
    Bear Bucks
    40,812
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 11-07-2012, 07:28 AM from GermansbombedPH
Message: Better than that soap water guniessTequilla
Gift received at 09-22-2012, 10:24 AM from Riczaj01
Message: downhere in Northern Mexico(aka San Antonio Texas), we tend to share this....not my personal favorite, but I'm definately in the minority.Trophy
Gift received at 01-30-2012, 01:48 PM from Dagan81
Message: Because you're the best God damn poster on this message board!  And, a true friend at that!9599
    Quote Originally Posted by motownbear View Post
    Iwould like to add I look at football players playing football not being workout warriors. When analysing a player you cant fall into the Al Davis traps. All the athleticism in the world has done jack shit for Chris Williams in three years. There is more tale to the tape then a shuttle run.

    Another thing to consider for guys who "fly up the boards" is agent influence. These draft gurus get perks from these guys and favors to bump up "their guy". These gurus had everyone thinking mike williams was a top ten talent after not playing a year.
    LOL, Matt Millen must have subscribed to a lot of them back then.

  • #18
    Senior Member WindyCity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    4,187
    Bear Bucks
    27,936
    Post Thanks / Like
    I am a fan of this draft and I think that we cannot go wrong drafting an OT or and OG.

    The reason that I say that drafting an OT is a good idea is that this years OG Free Agent class is very strong and I do not think that Williams is in this teams plans as they move into this offseason. I really do think they are going to try and replace him.

    Draft: OT Derek Sherrod

    Sign: One of,

    OG Justin Blalock
    OG Davin Joseph
    OG Marshall Yanda
    OG Harvey Dahl

    or

    Draft: OG Mike Pouncey

    Sign: One of,

    OT Tyson Clabo
    OT Jared Gaither
    OT Ryan Harris

  • #19
    Senior Member WindyCity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    4,187
    Bear Bucks
    27,936
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Well if we pick Liuget in the first than it becomes a non-issue and that's what mo and I were discussing. We both think we'd be better off taking Liuget than an OT. Then we get an OT or OG in round two. If we don't score an OT in the draft then it will be at the top of the list in FA.

    I know Sherrod's stock is rising and maybe he will go before #29 or maybe he won't. I just don't think he's the guy we want playing LT.
    I agree with you of Liguet is available, and I do not think he will be, we make the pick and address the OL in the 2nd and 3rd.

    I would not pass on the OL talent for Nevis or Paea.

  • #20
    Mello Jello soulman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    PEYTON'S PLACE
    Posts
    23,002
    Bear Bucks
    40,812
    Post Thanks / Like
    Blog Entries
    1
    Items Captain Morgan
Gift received at 11-07-2012, 07:28 AM from GermansbombedPH
Message: Better than that soap water guniessTequilla
Gift received at 09-22-2012, 10:24 AM from Riczaj01
Message: downhere in Northern Mexico(aka San Antonio Texas), we tend to share this....not my personal favorite, but I'm definately in the minority.Trophy
Gift received at 01-30-2012, 01:48 PM from Dagan81
Message: Because you're the best God damn poster on this message board!  And, a true friend at that!9599
    Quote Originally Posted by WindyCity View Post
    I agree with you of Liguet is available, and I do not think he will be, we make the pick and address the OL in the 2nd and 3rd.

    I would not pass on the OL talent for Nevis or Paea.
    Depends upon the talent Windy and what goes down between now and draft day. Right now I'd take Paea over Sherrod because he can start immediately and I don't think Sherrod can. But I wouldn't take him over Carimi or Costonzo who I think can start this year. I would take Sherrod over Nevis at that point as well. To me Nevis may be too light to be anymore than a situational player which is why I like the 300lb guys like Paea and Liuget.

    Pouncey is the wild card in here. He doesn't play a spot that we may not be able to fill in FA. If we do draft him it's to replace Kruetz next year or the following and he plays OG until. OG's are both plentiful and experienced in FA so why draft one that high when there are bigger needs?

  • Page 2 of 11 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •