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    I don't know. Fact is, mock drafts bore the hell out of me. They were boring 10 years ago, and in the last 10 years they have blown up to the point that I now would rather watch a Nova marathon than read about another one.
    One thing that does intruige me, is Carolina would love to trade out of that first pick. And Marcell Dareus sounds like fun.
    LMAO on watching a NOVA marathon. That would be the equivalent of a 24 hour showing of Gilligan's Island reruns for me.

    I'd love to have a shot at Fairley or Dareus and so would JA and Lovie but there's no way they'd give up the whole draft for him and that's about what it would take to move from #29 to #1. It's a nice thought though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    LMAO on watching a NOVA marathon. That would be the equivalent of a 24 hour showing of Gilligan's Island reruns for me.

    I'd love to have a shot at Fairley or Dareus and so would JA and Lovie but there's no way they'd give up the whole draft for him and that's about what it would take to move from #29 to #1. It's a nice thought though.
    I would cream in my britches if we traded up to the #1 pick to get Marcell Dareus. However, we would not want to put ourselves in the situation like what Mike Ditka did when he was coaching in New Orleans. Let us not pulls another Ricky Williams trade and lose the farm otherwise. Who is to say that Marcell Dareus will pan out? That is the thing about the NFL Draft...players are ranked and the such, but they are still unknown commodities until they actually suit up and play on Sundays.

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    Melton could fill void left by Harris

    Due diligence dictates the Chicago Bears should seriously explore the possibility of adding a defensive tackle in the April draft to replace recently-departed defensive line stalwart Tommie Harris.

    Bears coach Lovie Smith indicated as much at the NFL owners meetings on Tuesday, along with general manager Jerry Angelo.

    We lost Tommie Harris, a player that’s been one of the faces of the franchise, has done a lot of good things as a rusher for us. We still need to bring in another [pass-rushing defensive tackle],” Smith said. “We subtracted one. We need to bring in at least one more defensive lineman. As we look at defensive linemen, we’re not looking for run stoppers. He has to be able to rush the passer.”

    Interestingly, though, Harris’ potential replacement could already be on the roster in rising third-year man Henry Melton, judging from the effusive praise showered on him by Smith and Angelo.

    Coming off a disappointing rookie season spent on the injured reserve, Melton made tremendous strides in 2010 while contributing in a limited role. Melton finished the regular season with 17 tackles, 2½ sacks and nine quarterback pressures.

    Melton started the season with just two tackles in the first five games, but came on as the season progressed, pumping out 13 stops during a five-game stretch from Oct. 17 through Nov. 18.

    Melton’s production tapered off toward the end of the season (two tackles and a half sack over the last six games), but the defensive lineman flashed enough talent with limited playing time to convince the staff he could be even more disruptive with increased snaps.

    “The plan is for him to play more, and hopefully be a starter,” Angelo said of Melton. “Everything we saw this past year we liked. The arrow’s going up. We feel, physically speaking, he’s got everything you want in terms of size, speed, toughness. Now it’s just a matter of learning the position that will come with the repetition of more plays. We feel real good. No guarantees, but everything we look for he has.”

    In addition to freakish athleticism and a seemingly non-stop motor, Melton continues to hone his skills in the technical areas of pass rushing such as hand placement and leverage. Similar to defensive end Israel Idonije, who played a variety of roles along the defensive line and special teams before finally locking in on a position in 2010, Melton might also benefit from specializing at just one or two spots along the defensive front.

    At least that’s how Smith sees it.

    “There was a time when Israel Idonije was on kickoff return, kickoff team, then played inside and outside. When we were able to lock him in at the defensive end position, we really saw his play improve,” Smith said. “I think the same thing will happen with Henry. Henry was on the kickoff return team, on the kickoff team. But now we’ll be able to lock him in more to just maybe one or two positions. I just think [with him] working on that daily, you’ll see his numbers go up.”

    Melton has bulked up from his listed weight in 2010 of 260 pounds to close to 300 pounds, and even though Smith and Angelo are high on him, it’s almost certain the team will use a draft pick in April to select a defensive tackle.

    The roster already contains one -- possibly two if the Bears can sign unrestricted free agent Anthony Adams -- run-stuffing defensive tackle in Matt Toeina. Now the Bears look for someone to assume the under-tackle role vacated by Harris.

    “[Melton] could easily be the starter. You just look at what we’re getting with him,” Smith said. “[He’s] a guy that started at running back for the University of Texas as a freshman, and scored 10 touchdowns. So that’s the type of athlete you’re getting. So [in terms of] athletic ability, no defensive tackle will have more athletic ability than Henry. He’s a tough guy, too. He’s strong, coachable. So as I say, the sky’s the limit. I think he’s really gonna take off when he gets his opportunity to get more reps.”

    Smith made sure to temper some of the praise, as Angelo had done the day before during an interview with ESPNChicago.com.

    As talented as Melton may be, the Bears could possibly find a player just as gifted in the first two rounds of the draft. Most mock drafts indicate the Bears will use their first-round pick to select an offensive tackle, which is definitely an area of need.

    But Angelo has said the 2011 class of offensive linemen isn’t as strong as this year’s group of defensive linemen.

    Besides that, Smith says a team can never have enough defensive linemen.

    “Even if we love everyone, the next year we’ll be looking to see if we can get an improvement because it all starts with that for us,” Smith said. “We have options with Henry. I just think he’s gonna be one of those guys that we’re gonna be talking about. [But] I don’t want to get too high on a guy who hasn’t done a lot. He’s definitely one of those guys with a lot of potential.”

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    Oh God, spare me the talk, Jerry Angelo. You will probably go after a defensive linemen in the first round. I would not be against that if the level of talent at the OT position come time for the 29th pick is just too thin to really address our needs. That being said, I do not think it will be, though the talent past Gabe Carimi is raw.

    I like the idea of Henry Melton becoming a DT, to get back on topic a little more. If he is up to 294 pounds and is solid muscle, we could have a suitable replacement for Tommie Harris. If he can give us 4 to 8 sacks from his position, I would be ecstatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Oh God, spare me the talk, Jerry Angelo. You will probably go after a defensive linemen in the first round. I would not be against that if the level of talent at the OT position come time for the 29th pick is just too thin to really address our needs. That being said, I do not think it will be, though the talent past Gabe Carimi is raw.

    I like the idea of Henry Melton becoming a DT, to get back on topic a little more. If he is up to 294 pounds and is solid muscle, we could have a suitable replacement for Tommie Harris. If he can give us 4 to 8 sacks from his position, I would be ecstatic.
    Well that's what Nolan Nawrocki thinks too. http://www.chicagobears.com/news/New...?story_id=7689

    What's funny is last week the guy had us taking Orlando Franklin at #29..........Orlando Franklin????????? Does this guy have any idea of what he's doing? Next week he'll be writing about Mike Pouncey in the first and the following week it will probably be Sherrod, LOL.

    Hell, just give me the best DT or the best OT we can get our hands on and call it good. We need big talent at both spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Oh God, spare me the talk, Jerry Angelo. You will probably go after a defensive linemen in the first round. I would not be against that if the level of talent at the OT position come time for the 29th pick is just too thin to really address our needs. That being said, I do not think it will be, though the talent past Gabe Carimi is raw.

    I like the idea of Henry Melton becoming a DT, to get back on topic a little more. If he is up to 294 pounds and is solid muscle, we could have a suitable replacement for Tommie Harris. If he can give us 4 to 8 sacks from his position, I would be ecstatic.
    Yep if he's half the surprise as Izzy was it's a bonus. BUT we still need more from that position as good of potential Melton has.
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    This time I think Nawrocki and a few others are right. Liuget is our guy if we can get him and you can't rule out our trading up a bit to get him. Our third round pick alone can move us up from #29 to about #22 or #23. Getting up to #21 would cost a third and a fifth. Probably too much.

    We could afford as much as a 3rd rounder to do that and still not hurt ourselves since we will have FA to pick up an OG and a WR. If we take Liuget we need that second round pick for an OT who has the tools to play LT. With the 4th-6th picks we fill in C/OG, DB, and LB and we have no 7th so that's it for the draft.

    Now we still have lesser rated NFL FA's and UDRFA to chose from to add some camp competition and potential upgrades wherever needed. If we take this approach we go to camp with; 1) starting 3t DT, 2) starting FA RG, 3) starting WR (big and tall variety), 4) two young LT's in competition for the spot, 5) rookie OC prosepect, 6) rookie DB prospect, 7) rookie LB prospect and whatever else we come up with in FA's of one kind or another.

    We also need to re-sign our own core FA's like Manning, Adams, Roach, Pisa or Roach or both. This wouldn't be a bad offseason at all. I think most of us would turn handsprings if they can pull this off.

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