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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Are you an authority on the draft?
    Nope, and neither are any of the sites you read. Do you honestly think anybody in the NFL world reads or values those sites even a little bit in their formation of reports and opinions? I've been right enough and know enough to get a good idea of projections. If whoever you are reading doesn't work for the big three in sports publications or the NFL itself, then they aren't "authorities" either. Hell, the ESPN Duo both had him at 14 to the Rams, and Mayock has been talking about him in the teens since the before the combine. Just because there are a lot of big sites out there with a lot of information doesn't mean they full of good information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox View Post
    Nope, and neither are any of the sites you read. Do you honestly think anybody in the NFL world reads or values those sites even a little bit in their formation of reports and opinions? I've been right enough and know enough to get a good idea of projections. If whoever you are reading doesn't work for the big three in sports publications or the NFL itself, then they aren't "authorities" either. Hell, the ESPN Duo both had him at 14 to the Rams, and Mayock has been talking about him in the teens since the before the combine. Just because there are a lot of big sites out there with a lot of information doesn't mean they full of good information.
    LOL, yeah JA texted Windy just the other day and said to make up his mind on an OT. He's beginning to get confused from so many mocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    Oh well. This is all going to be a moot point, as the Bears will probably draft Corey Liuget at #29 in the first round. We will probably go after an OL in the second round, probably someone like G Danny Watkins.
    Watkins won't be around that late in the 2nd Dags. He's rated for somewhere around #25-#30 of the first and even his age wouldn't drop him all the way to the bottom of the second. He's really climbed up the boards this spring. Liuget gets to be a bigger if as time goes by too.

    IF........there's a run on the OT's in the 20's and one or two teams look to move up for a QB late in one there's a possibility he may last until #29 but I wouldn't bank on it. Right now I'd say JA and the boys are constructing trade down scenarios just in case. Considering that we have great coaching both for the Oline and the Dline they may be just as content with one of the 2nd tier guys and the extra pick we can get from a trade down into the early 2nd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Watkins won't be around that late in the 2nd Dags. He's rated for somewhere around #25-#30 of the first and even his age wouldn't drop him all the way to the bottom of the second. He's really climbed up the boards this spring.
    I'm not buying the talk of even his "outside chances" of sneaking into the first. He's more likely than not an OG, a position he hasn't played outside of the SB in a sport he's only been playing a few years, combined with the fact that he will be close to 30 by the time he reaches his technical prime would make me very wary of spending even a second day pick on him.

    Some team will take him in the second, I just hope it's not us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox View Post
    I'm not buying the talk of even his "outside chances" of sneaking into the first. He's more likely than not an OG, a position he hasn't played outside of the SB in a sport he's only been playing a few years, combined with the fact that he will be close to 30 by the time he reaches his technical prime would make me very wary of spending even a second day pick on him.

    Some team will take him in the second, I just hope it's not us.
    Second I can see but not as late as #62. Most everything I've seen on him in the way of mocks or scouting reports has had him moving up from a third round pick to the late first to early second. Age is a factor but not all that much if the guy is ready to play now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Second I can see but not as late as #62. Most everything I've seen on him in the way of mocks or scouting reports has had him moving up from a third round pick to the late first to early second. Age is a factor but not all that much if the guy is ready to play now.
    I don't see a single player I would put him above in the "ready to play" category from that second round group. The underlined post combined with his lack of experience overall speaks to that. He's highly rated because he was so good with so little experience, not because he is a sure-fire ready to play guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lklrlolnlilklsox View Post
    I don't see a single player I would put him above in the "ready to play" category from that second round group. The underlined post combined with his lack of experience overall speaks to that. He's highly rated because he was so good with so little experience, not because he is a sure-fire ready to play guy.
    Gotcha. Now I see what you're saying about his technical peak coming when he approaches 30. My guess is that somebody who's gonna lose an OG to FA will take him on a need basis and maybe a little higher than he might otherwise have gone. He seems to be attracting interest.

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