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    Lovie smith at UNC pro day

    The vanquished, injured and unheralded, all the Tar Heels were there for pro day which drew NFL coaches Mike Tomlin (Pittsburgh), Lovie Smith (Chicago) and Ron Rivera (Carolina) for an event that was equal parts audition, reunion and three-ring circus.

    At the center of attention were Marvin Austin, Greg Little and Robert Quinn, the three players in the middle of the NCAA investigation that cost the Tar Heels 14 players for at least one game and seven for the entire season. The NCAA investigated improper agent benefits and academic misconduct, beginning last summer.

    Austin, who was dismissed from the team by the school in October and missed the entire season for his role in the agent/benefit portion of the investigation, bragged the Tar Heels could have played for a national title if all of the 19 players at pro day were eligible and healthy.

    "You can see the number of scouts out there," said Austin, a second-team All-ACC defensive tackle in 2009. "We had the players to do it."
    Little, who was ruled permanently ineligible by the NCAA for his role, said he felt "guilty" about what happened and how it derailed UNC's season.

    "Who wouldn't?" the wide receiver said. "Who would not feel guilty about destroying a national championship, so to speak. Destroying an ACC title. Destroying a legacy that was going to be built here forever."

    Quinn, an All-ACC defensive end in 2009 who was ruled permanently ineligible by the NCAA, is expected to be the first of as many as 12 UNC players taken in the NFL draft, which starts April 28.
    Quinn, projected as a top-10 pick, did not disappoint on Thursday, running a 4.59 in the 40-yard dash, given his 6-foot-4, 264-pound frame.

    Austin and Quinn lined up together for a set of position drills, just like old times, and television cameras and scouts caught a glimpse of what never was in 2010.

    "It felt good," Quinn said of the position drills with Austin. "To see that drive in his eyes, we were really trying to just push each other, and compete with each other."
    Despite the turmoil and personnel losses, the Tar Heels won eight games for the third straight year and won their first bowl game since 2001.

    It was Yates, running back Johnny White, tight ends Zack Pianalto and Ryan Taylor, offensive linemen Mike Ingersoll and Alan Pelc, and linebackers Quan Sturdivant and Bruce Carter who held the program together in the wake of the investigation.
    White, Pianalto and Carter didn't make it through the season because of injuries. Carter and safety Deunta Williams did not participate Thursday because they're still rehabilitating injuries from the season.

    Pianalto and White had their chance to shine Thursday, with Yates throwing passes to them, and running backs Shaun Draughn and Anthony Elzy, and Taylor.

    For Taylor, who caught 36 passes last year, there was a sense of urgency. He wasn't one of the 12 UNC players who went to the NFL combine in February.
    "I needed the chance to show what I could do," Taylor said.

    Yates, who became UNC's first 3,000-yard passer and finished his career with 37 school records, threw 112 passes in 20 minutes on Thursday. He's expected to be the first UNC quarterback drafted since Ronald Curry (2002), who played receiver in the NFL.
    "You never know with quarterbacks," said Yates, who's projected to go near the end of the seven-round event. "It's tough to predict on draft day."
    The NFL lockout has added another level of uncertainty to the usual draft proceedings. Pianalto described the process as "weird."

    "With the lockout, there isn't a lot of information out there, even between the teams and agents," Pianalto said. "It's such a crapshoot."
    There was more certainty to the day and the reunion of all the players UNC expected to have last season. They were finally together for one day, even if it was too late to change the past.




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    I don't know about UNC being a National Championship team. They would have had to have gotten past Virginia Tech, and then actually climb the national polls. UNC came into the season ranked like 19th. It would have been a difficult, long road for them.

    I do not know how I feel about drafting someone like Marvin Austin. On the one hand, he was originally projected to be a first round talent, but with his part in the scandal that rocked the program to its very core, is he going to be someone who gets in trouble with the law and forces our hand in dealing with disciplinary issues? (or the NFL's, for that matter?) I would much rather have Nevis since he is a clean cut kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    I don't know about UNC being a National Championship team. They would have had to have gotten past Virginia Tech, and then actually climb the national polls. UNC came into the season ranked like 19th. It would have been a difficult, long road for them.

    I do not know how I feel about drafting someone like Marvin Austin. On the one hand, he was originally projected to be a first round talent, but with his part in the scandal that rocked the program to its very core, is he going to be someone who gets in trouble with the law and forces our hand in dealing with disciplinary issues? (or the NFL's, for that matter?) I would much rather have Nevis since he is a clean cut kid.
    No doubt Austin is a "wild card"... and a charachter risk, BUT will say what he did was more 'dumb" and done by a TON of NCAA athelete's, unfort he got caught on his trip..he didn't get busted for drugs, didn't break any criminal laws( jsut ncaaa rules).. So to me and prob what happened yesterday is you have the 'jesus meeting" with him and find out true charachter of him and if he's learned from it and will use it as motivation on the next level, or just being bitter..i'll also say on the news last night had a clip of lovie on sideline also watching little catch passes, so i'd say if he falls in draft we may take a shot at WR on him...

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    guess marinelli there also to work with austin:



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    [QUOTE;801136]No doubt Austin is a "wild card"... and a charachter risk, BUT will say what he did was more 'dumb" and done by a TON of NCAA athelete's, unfort he got caught on his trip..he didn't get busted for drugs, didn't break any criminal laws( jsut ncaaa rules).. So to me and prob what happened yesterday is you have the 'jesus meeting" with him and find out true charachter of him and if he's learned from it and will use it as motivation on the next level, or just being bitter..i'll also say on the news last night had a clip of lovie on sideline also watching little catch passes, so i'd say if he falls in draft we may take a shot at WR on him...[/QUOTE]

    Here is some info on Little. I have to say that I am impressed with his size (6'3", 220 lbs):
















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    Greg Little
    Hometown:
    Durham, N.C.

    High School:
    Hillside

    Height / Weight:
    6-3 / 220

    Position:
    Wide Receiver

    • Earned UNC Coaches' Player of the Week honors after wins over Virginia Tech and Boston College in 2009
    Versatile athlete who was arguably the most consistent offensive player on the team in 2009 • After moving back and forth from wide receiver to running back, Little found a permanent home at wide receiver • Physical receiver who can outplay defenders in the air for the football.
    2009 - Junior Season
    Versatile performer who started all 13 games at wide receiver • Posted a team-high 62 catches for 724 yards and five touchdowns on the season • His 62 catches are the fifth-highest single-season mark in school history • Only Hakeem Nicks (74 in 2007 & 68 in 2008), Jarwarski Pollock (71 in 2003) and Sam Aiken (68 in 2002) caught more in one season at UNC • Also rushed for 166 yards and a touchdown on 29 carries • Needed just five games to surpass his career reception total entering 2009 • Led UNC with 1,112 all-purpose yards for an average of 85.5 per game • Made seven receptions for 87 yards and two touchdowns vs. Pitt in the Meineke Car Care Bowl • His first touchdown reception was a spectacular catch over two defenders in the end zone • That play was ESPN's No. 1 play of the bowl season • Also had a 31-yard run vs. the Panthers and finished with 118 all-purpose yards • Posted a career-best 159 yards receiving on six catches at NC State • Had a career high with 76 yards in the first half alone, including a career-long 62-yard grab, against the Wolfpack • Caught seven passes for a then-career high 69 yards and rushed for 15 yards on four carries at Boston College • Had two catches for 35 yards, including a 29-yard TD reception, and rushed for 11 yards on three carries against Miami • Caught three passes for 26 yards and rushed for 12 yards on four carries against Duke • Made four catches for 58 yards and a touchdown at Virginia Tech and added 38 yards rushing on six carries • Caught six passes for a season-best 60 yards and added a season-high 48 yards rushing on just four carries against Florida State • Posted two plays of more than 27 yards against the Seminoles • Scored first rushing TD of the season on a 5-yard run versus FSU • Caught two passes for eight yards against Georgia Southern • Matched a career high with eight catches for a season-best 63 yards against Virginia • Caught two passes for 24 yards at Georgia Tech • Logged a season-best 59 yards on five catches against East Carolina • Had a career-best 34-yard catch against the Pirates • Posted a career-high eight catches for 45 yards at Connecticut • Caught two passes for 31 yards, including a 21-yard touchdown, and ran for nine yards against The Citadel.
    2008 - Sophomore Season
    Shifted back to wide receiver prior to the Virginia game following Brandon Tate's knee injury • Rushed for 339 yards and three touchdowns on 78 carries • Had 11 catches for 146 yards • Totaled 485 yards from scrimmage on the season • Rushed for 34 yards and caught two passes for 36 yards against West Virginia in the Meineke Car Care Bowl • Combined for 109 yards from scrimmage at Duke • Caught four balls for a career-best 67 yards, including a career-best 32-yarder, and rushed for 42 yards on two carries • Caught two passes for a season-best 36 yards against NC State • Also logged a career best 27-yard catch against the Wolfpack • Ran for three yards at Maryland on one carry • Carried twice for 13 yards in the win over No. 23 Boston College • Had two catches for three yards in first game back at receiver at Virginia • Carried twice for seven yards against Notre Dame • Rushed for six yards on three carries versus No. 23 Connecticut • Carried 14 times for 38 yards and a touchdown at Miami • Scored the Tar Heels' first TD against the Canes on a 6-yard run in the second quarter • Ran for a season-best 71 yards on 18 carries for the second straight game against Virginia Tech • Scored on a 50-yard TD run against the Hokies for his career-long run • Rushed for 71 yards on 18 carries at Rutgers • Carried 14 times for 37 yards and a touchdown against McNeese State • Scored on a 5-yard run in the fourth quarter against the Cowboys.
    2007 - Freshman Season
    Versatile rookie played in all 12 games • Ran for 300 yards and two scores on 59 carries and had 13 catches for 99 yards and a receiving TD • Averaged 5.1 yards per game, a team-best for tailbacks • Moved from receiver to tailback for the final two games and rushed for 247 yards • Also averaged 13.2 yards on 11 kickoff returns • Starting his second straight game at tailback, carried 26 times for a career-best 158 yards and two touchdowns, including the game-winner in overtime against Duke • Also caught two passes for 11 yards vs. the Blue Devils and was named one of UNC's offensive players of the week by the coaches • Started at tailback for the first time at Georgia Tech and ran for 89 yards on 24 carries • Also caught three passes for 13 yards for 102 yards from scrimmage • Had three catches for 22 yards and returned two kickoffs 30 yards at NC State • Carried twice for seven yards vs. Maryland • Ran for 12 yards and had a 22-yard kickoff return at Wake Forest • Broke out with 79 total yards (50 rec., 29 rush) against South Carolina • Scored first career TD on an 18-yard reception • Lined up under center and ran the ball four times vs. the Gamecocks • Also caught four passes, including a long of 22 yards • Had a 9-yard rush in the win over Miami • Caught one pass for three yards vs. JMU.
    High School: SuperPrep All-America • USA Today All-America selection • Ranked the No. 2 player in the state of North Carolina and the No. 6 athlete in the country by SuperPrep • Member of Tom Lemming's All-America team • Has been hailed by most recruiting analysts as the most versatile player in the country• Excelled at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, linebacker, safety and cornerback while helping Hillside to a 10-3 finish • As a senior, had 55 catches for 969 yards and nine touchdowns as a receiver, 800 yards on 140 carries and 14 touchdowns as a running back and four interceptions on defense • Returned one interception for a touchdown • Named the Gatorade Player of the Year in North Carolina • All-conference selection • Coached by Ray Harrison • Also competed in basketball and track and field • Son of Gail and Gregory Little • Born May 30, 1989.
    Personal
    Son of Gail and Gregory Little • Born May 30, 1989 • Communications major • Nickname is "Freak" • New Year's resolution is to be more family oriented • People say he looks like Lebron James and Greg Oden • Pregame superstition is to take a shower right before putting on his game day jersey • Would like to guest star on "Saturday Night Live" • Would run "The Amazing Race" with teammate Bruce Carter • Favorite website is theshoegame.com • Would like to visit Athens, Greece • Favorite NFL team is the Dallas Cowboys • Has a tattoo that says, "Hustle - he uses strength to lift everyone" Favorite Chapel Hill restaurant is Sutton's Drugstore.


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    not sure agree with maycock, but here it is:

    NFL Network's Mike Mayock believes that North Carolina DT Marvin Austin has pushed his stock back into the first round this offseason.

    "I'll be really surprised if he doesn't go somewhere between 20 and 32," said Mayock on Thursday night's Path to the Draft. Austin didn't have a productive career before being kicked off UNC's campus in 2010, but he's always been considered one of the most talented defensive linemen in the country. A team like the Bears could be a natural fit late in the first round."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    not sure agree with maycock, but here it is:

    NFL Network's Mike Mayock believes that North Carolina DT Marvin Austin has pushed his stock back into the first round this offseason.

    "I'll be really surprised if he doesn't go somewhere between 20 and 32," said Mayock on Thursday night's Path to the Draft. Austin didn't have a productive career before being kicked off UNC's campus in 2010, but he's always been considered one of the most talented defensive linemen in the country. A team like the Bears could be a natural fit late in the first round."
    That underlined part where it says that he never had a productive season at North Carolina concerns me. How do we know that he will flourish in the NFL if was never that good in college? His screw up with taking money from a booster may have cost him dearly. I agree with you, DB - I do not know how Mayock came to this conclusion, which is why I endorse Nevis, since he was very productive for LSU under John Chavis.

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    Damn, with that bandana on Austin even looks a little like Tank Johnson. I may like his size and speed a bit more than Nevis but losing a year off a less than stellar college career won't help him. I think he may end up more like Marcus Harrison. First round potential that has never been realized and maybe never will be.

    I'm gonna trust that the Bears won't make that mistake again.

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    The more I have read about Austin, the more skeptical and wary I have become. Probably best to let some other team take a flyer on a guy who missed an entire year.

    Appears that our 3 best DT options are Liuget, Paea, & Nevis (probably the order they will go in the draft as well).

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