Thread: ESPN Chicago OT Draft Preview

I don't buy the "we'll get by" approach at all. Webb may improve some but what we're getting from Omiyale is a very real "what you see is what you get". At best he should become the swing OT and at the worst he gets shown the door and we admit he was a big mistake.

It pretty certain that we'd take Carimi if he's still there at #29 but our chances of that are 50-50 at best. If that's the case we're left with Sherrod at #29 or early in the second or possibly a choice between him and Franklin in the early part of two. The other guy I like most in round two is Ijalana but he's being projected at OG more than OT for now. Carpenter or Gilbert would be my last choices.

There's also the possibility of going the FA route for an OT and taking another position at #62. OG, where Ijalana is a fit too, or possibly a CB if there's one there we like who won't fall to us in the third.

While we all agree that we need help at both OT and OG I would not want to see us reach for any of these 2nd tier guys out of desperartion. If the remaining DT prospects rate ahead of the OT prospects that's were we should spend that first pick.

The funny thing is Omyale wasnt playing out of position in Carolina he was the backup LT before we made him rich lol great research espn

My List

1. Tyron Smith
2. Gabe Carimi
3. Anthony Costanzo
4. Derek Sherrod
5. Nate Solder
6. James Carpenter
7. Orlando Franklin
8. Marcus Gilbert
9. Marcus Cannon
10. James Brewer

Originally Posted by motownbear

The funny thing is Omyale wasnt playing out of position in Carolina he was the backup LT before we made him rich lol great research espn

And that's all he's any good at now. If he even manages to stick with the team he should be a swing tackle as a hedge against injuries and that's it.

Just saw another mock with us taking Sherrod at #29 and they say we'll have stolen him with that pick. They claim he has the best upside of any of the top 5 OT's. Can't say that I agree and I'd rather we didn't buy into that but if Tice feels he's the guy that's gonna be his starting LT this year who am I to argue.

The same mock has us taking Nevis in the second. Seems to me they've got the order reversed. I think there will be better DT's on the board than Sherrod and that's what we should spend that first pick on. I also think there'll be better Olineman on the board than Nevis at #62 and that's were we get our OT/OG.

Originally Posted by soulman

And that's all he's any good at now. If he even manages to stick with the team he should be a swing tackle as a hedge against injuries and that's it.

Just saw another mock with us taking Sherrod at #29 and they say we'll have stolen him with that pick. They claim he has the best upside of any of the top 5 OT's. Can't say that I agree and I'd rather we didn't buy into that but if Tice feels he's the guy that's gonna be his starting LT this year who am I to argue.

The same mock has us taking Nevis in the second. Seems to me they've got the order reversed. I think there will be better DT's on the board than Sherrod and that's what we should spend that first pick on. I also think there'll be better Olineman on the board than Nevis at #62 and that's were we get our OT/OG.

LT will always carry more value then DT.

Sherrod is more highly ranked then most of the DTs that will be there and he plays a more important position.

We have a better chance of getting a DT at 62 [Nevis, McClain] then we do of getting a LT [Brewer, Gilbert].

Originally Posted by WindyCity

LT will always carry more value then DT.

Sherrod is more highly ranked then most of the DTs that will be there and he plays a more important position.

We have a better chance of getting a DT at 62 [Nevis, McClain] then we do of getting a LT [Brewer, Gilbert].

Not on the Chicago Bears Windy. That's just your opinion and in this years draft you'd be wrong. There are quite a few Dlineman who are projected to go before OT's this year. In fact there are four rated ahead of Tyron Smith alone and both Liuget and Wilkerson rate ahead of Sherrod.

On the Bears that 3t UT is as important to the defense as LT is to the offense. If the Bears feel he's got greater value at #29 than anyone else and he's THE GUY Tice wants then Sherrod it will be. I won't bitch about that. If Liuget or Wilkerson ranks higher on the Bears board and one of them is who Marinelli wants then so be it. All three are capable of being starters this year so I couldn't be unhappy with that but I will always feel that Sherrod is a bigger risk at LT than any of the 3t DT's left on the board are at that spot.

Originally Posted by soulman

Not on the Chicago Bears Windy. That's just your opinion and in this years draft you'd be wrong. There are quite a few Dlineman who are projected to go before OT's this year. In fact there are four rated ahead of Tyron Smith alone and both Liuget and Wilkerson rate ahead of Sherrod.

On the Bears that 3t UT is as important to the defense as LT is to the offense. If the Bears feel he's got greater value at #29 than anyone else and he's THE GUY Tice wants then Sherrod it will be. I won't bitch about that. If Liuget or Wilkerson ranks higher on the Bears board and one of them is who Marinelli wants then so be it. All three are capable of being starters this year so I couldn't be unhappy with that but I will always feel that Sherrod is a bigger risk at LT than any of the 3t DT's left on the board are at that spot.

It is a QB driven league and the LT will always be the 2nd most important position on every team in the NFL because they protect the QB. This is why LTs are the 2nd highest paid players in the league, behind QBs, and DTs are not in the top 5 highest paid players.

In this draft the DT class is stronger then the OT class there is no arguing it. This OT class is weak compared to other years.

But if teams have a weakness at LT and at DT and you give them a chance at drafting Ryan Clady or Kong Suh most, if not all, teams would select Clady because the most important person on the team is the guy they have at QB

I am not advocating reaching. If you gave me the choice of Marcel Darues of Derek Sherrod of course I would take Dareus he is a top 5 talent. But if you gave me the option of Jake Long or Marcel Dareus I would take Jake Long.

I understand that the 3 technique OT is very important to the Bears defense, but no team in this league is defined by their defense anymore it is now good there QB is. This team could have Darnell Dockett or Kong Suh playing DT for them and they would not go any further then they did this year, hell they held the Packers to under 50 points in 3 games. The Steelers had a great defense for 20 years, but did not start winning until they got Ben. The Ravens still have a Superbowl defense, but Flacco's development has kept them from the Superbowl.

If given the option of Paea or Sherrod I will take Sherrod because he will allow us to get the most out of the guy that we invested 2 1st round picks and a 3rd in.

Sherrod my be the riskier pick, but we have to take the risk to protect the most important guy with a C on his head.

Originally Posted by WindyCity

My List

1. Tyron Smith
2. Gabe Carimi
3. Anthony Costanzo
4. Derek Sherrod
5. Nate Solder
6. James Carpenter
7. Orlando Franklin
8. Marcus Gilbert
9. Marcus Cannon
10. James Brewer

Is T Smith the one that people say has a degenerative knee condition cause of offseason micro surgery? I know Bowers has that on top of his head that might push him out of the first round. But there was one more guy and I think Smith was that guy

Originally Posted by soulman

Not on the Chicago Bears Windy. That's just your opinion and in this years draft you'd be wrong. There are quite a few Dlineman who are projected to go before OT's this year. In fact there are four rated ahead of Tyron Smith alone and both Liuget and Wilkerson rate ahead of Sherrod.

On the Bears that 3t UT is as important to the defense as LT is to the offense. If the Bears feel he's got greater value at #29 than anyone else and he's THE GUY Tice wants then Sherrod it will be. I won't bitch about that. If Liuget or Wilkerson ranks higher on the Bears board and one of them is who Marinelli wants then so be it. All three are capable of being starters this year so I couldn't be unhappy with that but I will always feel that Sherrod is a bigger risk at LT than any of the 3t DT's left on the board are at that spot.

our pass rush is what makes our defense click you are 100% correct. Get the right 3 tech talent and Peppers is a 15 sack guy