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The 5th round pick is in 2012.Originally Posted by thekmann
A 1st and 3rd gets us into the 23 range.
The 5th round pick is in 2012.
A 1st and 3rd gets us into the 23 range.
Now that I would not be too opposed to seeing seeing how their 3rd round picks have not panned out lately. The only problem is that picks in the early 20's are highly coveted as you usually get a starting caliber player and don't have to pay to much for him so finding a trading partner may pose a problem.
Interesting order of your board sox. Although I'd agree with you 100% about not trading up I'm curious as to why you'd rate Sherrod ahead of either Wilkerson or Austin especially since you've been so high on the guys ability to play 3t DT. To me it would be a real tossup between the two but I'd put Wilkerson ahead based on perceived readiness to start but if they took Sherrod I wouldn't shoot either myself or JA for that matter.
I would shoot JA is he took Solder or Austin at #29 though. As time goes by I get less and less enamored of Austin even if he is a perfect fit. To me he reperesents a huge risk of becoming a tremendous underachiever much like we already have in Marcus Harrison and I think that as more teams realize this risk he'll drop like a rock to the bottom of two (where I might consider him) or even into the third.
I'd give up a 3rd to get Liuget since he's the best sure thing at 3t DT we could get if he even got past #20 or #21. Otherwise I'd sit back and wait to see what my choices were at #29. I'm still holding on to that trade down and the extra 3rd if our top two guys don't fall to us.
The problem therein lies in the counter juxtaposition that giving the time for teams to lower their levels of expectation for Marvin Austin and the actual time variable that is present is not very feasible. The draft is a week from Thursday I think, and that is not a lot of time to change a bunch of coaches, general managers, and scouts minds on what they have witnessed in post season senior bowls and at the Combine. The lowest Austin will go will be the last seven picks of the first round. I personally hope for either drafting Sherrod or for a trade down to the second and third rounds.
Then you and seven NFL teams have a lot more confidence in his spot in the pecking order than I do. I don't see him going before pick #40 which is why we should pretty easily be able to trade down for him if truly the guy. As for changing their minds hell they do that right up to the final seconds before they make the pick.
I think Austin is trying to talk his way back into the first round but I don't think it's working. He has his large part in the NCAA suspension to overcome as well as being football inactive for over a year. Anything he may have gained at his pro day may have been lost because of his take on the investigation and a suspension. By the weight of the evidence if he won't take responsibility for that how will he react to a bad game in the pros. I think he a talented guy but a very iffy choice. I see underachiever written all over him.
I'm getting this information from PFT, The Sporting News, and Walter Football.com. While TSN has him going low, WF.com has him going at 36th and possibly as high as in the low first round. PFT is projecting that the Bears will pick Austin with the 29th overall pick, and the fellows on NFL Network, particularly Mike Mayock, feel that the Bears may go for him as well. Personally, I think he's a gamble from a disciplinary standpoint.
36.Denver Broncos: Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
The Broncos are so desperate at defensive tackle that they may use back-to-back selections on the position. The Buccaneers and Jaguars both did the same thing last year, so it can definitely happen.
Marvin Austin missed the 2010 campaign, but has enjoyed a terrific draft season. There's a good chance he'll go in the first round.
Doubt that after taking Dareus at #2 they'll take another DT. What I think they're more likely to do is trade back into the first again for another QB. Orton is way too costly for what he's able to do, Tebow is along way from being an NFL QB, and Quinn Brady is a flop so if they can get another prospect to develop Elway will do it and trade Orton to somebody who needs a vet QB once the new CBA is signed.I'm getting this information from PFT, The Sporting News, and Walter Football.com. While TSN has him going low, WF.com has him going at 36th and possibly as high as in the low first round. PFT is projecting that the Bears will pick Austin with the 29th overall pick, and the fellows on NFL Network, particularly Mike Mayock, feel that the Bears may go for him as well. Personally, I think he's a gamble from a disciplinary standpoint.
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The Broncos are so desperate at defensive tackle that they may use back-to-back selections on the position. The Buccaneers and Jaguars both did the same thing last year, so it can definitely happen.
Marvin Austin missed the 2010 campaign, but has enjoyed a terrific draft season. There's a good chance he'll go in the first round.
I'd love to get their 3rd for trading back from #29 to #36. It wouldn't have all that much affect on us IMO.
That would be making it close to New England territory as far as the number of draft picks we would get early on, except we wouldn't get anything in the first round. We need to bulk up on draft picks and hopefully pick some players in the first three rounds who are worth a damn for a change. What we need is balance.
fly like a frog doesn't bump its ass everytime it hops. It's not gonna happen so let's pretend that it happens
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