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Originally Posted by
Nick
stfu. if i bump everyone up then Hankerson goes rd 1....hankeson won't go in the 1st, so you lose cred right there.
I can do whatever I want and put any random pick out there I want...it's what you dorks do all day/week/year long and it's no more accurate or credible than what i did.
Hey Nick cool it, you're living up to you nickname man. Sox is making a good point with the exception of round one most everyone you've listed is rated a round above where you have them. Remember man our picks are late in every round so as an example, even though he's got a 3rd round grade Wisniewski may be around in the early 4th but not the late 4th.
I can see you picks based on wishes but few if any would come true.
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Originally Posted by
Nick
trade our 3rd and 5th to move up in the 3rd and grab nevis. trade our 4th and 6th and move up to grab wisniewski BAM angleo has his 4 starters.
LMFAO!!!! Nick were you into your stash before you posted this one?

This ain't Madden were talking about here so in order to do what you propose two things need to happen not just one. First the player you want has to be there at the position you want to trade for and two you need to find a team willing to do it for that price.
You can't control either of those issues execept hypothetically. It's far easier to do a two round mock since we pretty much know who our tagets may be and what other teams are looking for too. You may be lucky enough to get those right but not all six picks.
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every mock draft is a hypothetical one...I'm gonna be amazed if we get any of those players, let alone all 6. for crying out loud, just cause theirs a few of you who devote waaaaaaay too much time configuring a mock draft every single week, and some times multiple times per week, doesn't make you any more credible than me...wtf?!?!?! get over yourselves...you're all sounding alot like dablowhard54...everybody's wrong but me
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Originally Posted by
Nick
every mock draft is a hypothetical one...I'm gonna be amazed if we get any of those players, let alone all 6. for crying out loud, just cause theirs a few of you who devote waaaaaaay too much time configuring a mock draft every single week, and some times multiple times per week, doesn't make you any more credible than me...wtf?!?!?! get over yourselves...you're all sounding alot like dablowhard54...everybody's wrong but me
I don't do mocks Nick I only comment on them but if you want to know how I'd like it to work out here goes. This without any trading.
1) Carimi
2) Austin, Nevis, McLain (best 3t DT on the board)
3) CB (Dowling, House, Jalil Brown, etc)
4) Wisniewski, Barnes, Moffitt (best OG/C prospects still around)
5) Pettis or LB (Irving, Jones)
6) LB, WR, S, maybe QB
That would be a very nice draft for us. I want two starters and two contributors from this group. Here they are; Carimi and 3t DT both start, DT in rotation with Melton. If CB doesn't start he's gonna push someone else, J Moore, Bowman, real hard for that LCB spot. OG/C backs up Olin and/or Garza but unlikely to start unless injury happens. Pettis gets playing time in rotation with others. LB, S, start on ST's. QB strictly developmental and nothing more than a clipboard holder and QB of scout team.
There you go. Two starters two contributors and a whole lot of help for Toub's ST's. How would that work out for y'all?
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Some of the mocks on here look good but you just KNOW it ain't gonna go down the way we would either like or think. We've gone through so many permutations so someone might hit the nail on the head.
I'm expecting the worst and hoping for the best.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
I don't do mocks Nick I only comment on them but if you want to know how I'd like it to work out here goes. This without any trading.
1) Carimi
2) Austin, Nevis, McLain (best 3t DT on the board)
3) CB (Dowling, House, Jalil Brown, etc)
4) Wisniewski, Barnes, Moffitt (best OG/C prospects still around)
5) Pettis or LB (Irving, Jones)
6) LB, WR, S, maybe QB
That would be a very nice draft for us. I want two starters and two contributors from this group. Here they are; Carimi and 3t DT both start, DT in rotation with Melton. If CB doesn't start he's gonna push someone else, J Moore, Bowman, real hard for that LCB spot. OG/C backs up Olin and/or Garza but unlikely to start unless injury happens. Pettis gets playing time in rotation with others. LB, S, start on ST's. QB strictly developmental and nothing more than a clipboard holder and QB of scout team.
There you go. Two starters two contributors and a whole lot of help for Toub's ST's. How would that work out for y'all?
My God, I love this! Read my mind. A few minor tweaks to add only...
1. Austin: Only if we are very convinced his character/attitude issues aren't likely to be a problem going forward. O/w I'd rather go with Nevis or possibly McClain.
2. Wisniewski: He's the most polished Center-prospect after Pouncey, so I'd take him in 3 if he's still there (doubt he will last to late-4 & he may not make it out of 2). He could get backup playing time @ OG this year and likely take over for Olin in '12. Push CB back to 4 in this scenario. If Wis is gone by 3, take BAP @ CB in 3 and then Barnes in 4.
3. Irving: If he's there in 5, we should take him for sure over any WR (I'm counting on filling WR in FA, so a draftee would just be a developmental flyer anyway this late).
4. QB in 6: Wouldn't even use a 6th rounder for one. We can easily pick up a clipboard-holder/QB3 as an UDFA. Rather have a small school long-shot like Stephen Burton (WR-West Texas A&M) or a Safety.
Heck, if we can come away with Carimi, Nevis/McClain, House/JBrown/Dowling, and Wis/Barnes, that would be an "all you could ask for" stellar draft.
Another OG + big-WR is up to FA...
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Originally Posted by
short faced bear
Some of the mocks on here look good but you just KNOW it ain't gonna go down the way we would either like or think. We've gone through so many permutations so someone might hit the nail on the head.
I'm expecting the worst and hoping for the best.
Shorty I think any mock that's gonna have any valididty to it has to approach it from the same perspective you would if you were the Bears GM. You have to have multiple prospects for each pick 1 through 6. Like sox has posted any mock that doesn't include all teams is pretty much a shot in the dark. You can't be accurate when you don't even have an idea if your guy is still on the board when you pick.
Having 5-6 players rated as fits at every pick is about the only way you can even get close to getting an accurate mock. Then you should list those players where they fall assuming no trades and then post it. On draft weekend you can see how your picks did vs reality. Was there one guy at each pick who was on your list.
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Originally Posted by
MPBears68
My God, I love this! Read my mind. A few minor tweaks to add only...
1. Austin: Only if we are very convinced his character/attitude issues aren't likely to be a problem going forward. O/w I'd rather go with Nevis or possibly McClain.
2. Wisniewski: He's the most polished Center-prospect after Pouncey, so I'd take him in 3 if he's still there (doubt he will last to late-4 & he may not make it out of 2). He could get backup playing time @ OG this year and likely take over for Olin in '12. Push CB back to 4 in this scenario. If Wis is gone by 3, take BAP @ CB in 3 and then Barnes in 4.
3. Irving: If he's there in 5, we should take him for sure over any WR (I'm counting on filling WR in FA, so a draftee would just be a developmental flyer anyway this late).
4. QB in 6: Wouldn't even use a 6th rounder for one. We can easily pick up a clipboard-holder/QB3 as an UDFA. Rather have a small school long-shot like Stephen Burton (WR-West Texas A&M) or a Safety.
Heck, if we can come away with Carimi, Nevis/McClain, House/JBrown/Dowling, and Wis/Barnes, that would be an "all you could ask for" stellar draft.
Another OG + big-WR is up to FA...
1) I figure they either have Austin on the board wherever they're willing to take a chance on him or not on it at all. There's really no in between with him. You're either for him or against him.
2) I'd agree that Wisniewski is the most polished but we don't need immediate polish if he's gonna be a back up to Olin for a year or two. Guys like Barnes, Moffitt, Kirkpatrick or Zane Taylor may grow into the role with some time learning at Olin's feet. Thse guy we can get in 4 or 5 so that we can prioritize as CB in three. I wouldn't have a problem with it either way. I just guess I'm more concerned about that LCB position and some additional depth in the form of a CB with speed and size.
3) If it came down to a choice between Irving and Pettis it would be a difficult choice but I think I'd agree with you and take Irving first if he's there. Pretty much the same reason here as with round three. There are other ways to get help at WR but we need a young LB in the mix and one who can cover both MLB and SLB on the team.
4) I wouldn't even be thinking about it if it hadn't been mentioned by War Room Jerry. I'd rather save that spot for a BPA guy. Maybe someone like Burton if we lose out on WR in the 5th (Pettis?) in favor of taking LB (Irving?) I think there are reasonably good QB prospects for those developmental spots that may not be drafted. Problem is we can't sign them until a new CBA has been agreed upon or the lockout lifted.
Of course one way or another the offseason will go on and FA will start. Then we fill the other must have spots with proven vets.
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Originally Posted by
soulman
Shorty I think any mock that's gonna have any valididty to it has to approach it from the same perspective you would if you were the Bears GM. You have to have multiple prospects for each pick 1 through 6. Like sox has posted any mock that doesn't include all teams is pretty much a shot in the dark. You can't be accurate when you don't even have an idea if your guy is still on the board when you pick.
Having 5-6 players rated as fits at every pick is about the only way you can even get close to getting an accurate mock. Then you should list those players where they fall assuming no trades and then post it. On draft weekend you can see how your picks did vs reality. Was there one guy at each pick who was on your list.
Yeah, I think that they will have more contingency plans and decision trees than any of us can hope to write down not just picks. I think if you can guess the right scenario you would have a better chance of seeing who we may draft.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still messed up.
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