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    This just in: NFL Network graded the Bears draft a C-. I don't what drugs they're on, but keep me away from them.
    Some of these guys just grade on the players taken and nothing else. They don't consider a teams needs and how well they filled them at all. Teams who draft high get higher rated players but not always better ones. Some of these guys should be required to seal these grades in a vault and then we all get to look at them 5 years from now and laugh at the idiots who graded the Raiders A+ because they got J'Marcus Russell, LOL.
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    I would grade the Bears draft a C+/B-.

    Only reason its not an A, is because they took the QB in the fifth.

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    Most sites I'm reading are giving the Bears in the B/B+ range on our draft, with the reason we were graded lower being our third and fifth round picks.

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    I gave them a B+ based on the players taken alone. Based on meeting needs, moving up to get Paea immediately after Austin was taken, and if Unga pans out to be the power back we need I'd move them up to an A- or maybe even an A.

    Like I've said, on paper this is the best draft I've seen them make in 10 years. I don't think there was one reach in the bunch. We got lucky with Carimi falling as he did and after that we got the rest just about where they were rated to go. I won't even ding them for Enderle because I see the need and now that we know many of the 5th round rated guys were either gone or are still undrafted it doesn't seem like a bad move.

    I also think that two years from now we won't be dinging the Conte pick either.
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    you must forget, in this aspect, Heroin is defense and vice versa.... so perhaps he was just using the comparison of the original poster.

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    I know I was just sayin' that I hadn't seen him around for a bit.
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    I think all of us are usually in a rush to judge something before we know how it's going to work; heck, one of our first two picks could be a bust, and our safety could be the next Mike Brown (minus injuries). Not likely, but we'll have to wait and see. Then again, the whole point of a message board is to put out your thoughts on something not too long after they happen, and to pat yourself on the back if you guessed right, or have it brought up if you're wrong. Either way, when Hanie is gone(which i'm sure some team that isn't in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes next year, and doesn't fall in love with any of the other prospects will do, or maybe the year after), it's good to have a guy grow in the system.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    I think all of us are usually in a rush to judge something before we know how it's going to work; heck, one of our first two picks could be a bust, and our safety could be the next Mike Brown (minus injuries). Not likely, but we'll have to wait and see. Then again, the whole point of a message board is to put out your thoughts on something not too long after they happen, and to pat yourself on the back if you guessed right, or have it brought up if you're wrong. Either way, when Hanie is gone(which i'm sure some team that isn't in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes next year, and doesn't fall in love with any of the other prospects will do, or maybe the year after), it's good to have a guy grow in the system.

    The thing about Chris Conte is that he has a ton of upside. All the scouting reports say this. So to say that this was a bad draft pick is, as you said, a bit premature. I hope he is like Mike Brown in that he has freakish athletic ability and can be a Pro Bowl safety in the future.

    But in regards to our first two picks, I think that at least one of them will turn out to be a great addition for this team, most likely both of them because they were both All-Americans in college. In Carimi, we have arguably the most complete OL from the college ranks last season who can play any one of four positions along the line and will be invaluable as an OT no matter what side of the line he works on. In Paea, you get a guy who, in 12 games last season, accumulated something like 6 sacks and was named Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year. I think the worst you're going to see out of Paea is him becoming an Albert Haynesworth (minus the off-field issues), while Carimi will probably be the most solid OT to play in Chicago since perhaps the great Jimbo Covert and Keith Van Horne.

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