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Originally Posted by
Henry Burris
Fair enough, I hate to act like a forum nazi, and I have skipped over that. Either way a football/religious discussion would be welcomed, i'm sure, in the Bar Scene...

Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
True enough.
It's too bad that on this site, one is not welcome to express his sincere opinions and beliefs regarding religion and the way it impacts a man's life. Furthermore, it's equally as sad that people denigrate religion as simply a source of great hypocrisy when in fact, for billions of people around the world, it has fueled their desires to become better, more wholesome people and to become the best that they possibly can be. And lastly, it is a travesty when someone tells you to take the discussion of religion to the part of a website where people with demented agendas and bad intentions get involved in the conversation and disrespect what one believes in so fervently. Call me your typical Southern Bible Belt product all you want, but I didn't see anyone trying to stop Reggie White in his day from trying to fuse his religion into his game.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
It's too bad that on this site, one is not welcome to express his sincere opinions and beliefs regarding religion and the way it impacts a man's life. Furthermore, it's equally as sad that people denigrate religion as simply a source of great hypocrisy when in fact, for billions of people around the world, it has fueled their desires to become better, more wholesome people and to become the best that they possibly can be. And lastly, it is a travesty when someone tells you to take the discussion of religion to the part of a website where people with demented agendas and bad intentions get involved in the conversation and disrespect what one believes in so fervently. Call me your typical Southern Bible Belt product all you want, but I didn't see anyone trying to stop Reggie White in his day from trying to fuse his religion into his game.
Dag, you are free to talk religion and politics all you want. No one will stop you. We just ask that everyone keeps the religious and political talk in the proper forums on this board.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
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That's where I will disagree with you, Benji. A man who kneels before God is less likely to be wholly corrupt. There are exceptions to every rule, but in the Jewish faith (I'm a member of the Church of the Nazarene, which is the denomination from which Olivet Nazarene University bases itself, and I have done extensive reading and watching documentaries on the Jewish faith, though I am no expert), worshippers are taught the importance of good works for those less fortunate as being the greatest good they can achieve, since they are still waiting on a messianic figure to cleanse them of their sins (e.g. charities, doing what the article said about Carimi building houses for Habitat for Humanity as his bar mitzvah project, etc.). Christians, at least the Protestants, are taught that a connection to God must come from a relationship with Jesus Christ, and that by His Grace alone are we to be saved. In Christianity, except for maybe Roman Catholicism, good works will not get you into Heaven, but a relationship with Jesus Christ will.
Carimi is Jewish and is apparently a good member of his faith because he dutifully follows the teachings of The Talmud (our Old Testament) and helps those in need. I have to believe that because he has such a strong bond with God that he is less likely to "toe the line" as you would say, Benji, and cross over to a darker path that does not follow righteousness.
A man of faith is no less likely to commit evil deeds than someone who does not have Christ in their lives. Just simply is not true. It would seem "out of character" because they are men of faith, but there are countless examples of men of faith (as well as men of the cloth) who are not as clean and as pure as you would expect them to be.
If memory serves, some of the most well know serial killers were strong men of faith as well.
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
Dag, you are free to talk religion and politics all you want. No one will stop you. We just ask that everyone keeps the religious and political talk in the proper forums on this board.
Apparently not, because all I was saying is that I find most people who are religious usually are more grounded, and then everyone jumped me like a school of piranhas. I wasn't trying to espouse my religion onto anyone - I was only making a point. That's all.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
Apparently not, because all I was saying is that I find most people who are religious usually are more grounded, and then everyone jumped me like a school of piranhas. I wasn't trying to espouse my religion onto anyone - I was only making a point. That's all.
Only person who had a gripe was Burris, because there is a specific location for religious talk. And only reason Burris questioned it, is because it spawned into a religious discussion.
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Carimi was a rock solid pick.
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Originally Posted by
jackiejokeman
Carimi was a rock solid pick.
Yes he was, and he appears to have his feet set squarely on the ground
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Originally Posted by
The Benjamin
Yes he was, and he appears to have his feet set squarely on the ground
Benji everything sez this is what you build a future LINE around...I just wish we would have gone deeper and gotten another OL.
BUT...a project QB was more importent after we let LeFevour travel.
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I can't imagine a guy that big even attempting to blow his own horn.
Not to mention he's a world class athlete, he should be able to get someone to do it for him with ease.
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Originally Posted by
Dagan81
Apparently not, because all I was saying is that I find most people who are religious usually are more grounded, and then everyone jumped me like a school of piranhas. I wasn't trying to espouse my religion onto anyone - I was only making a point. That's all.
Why in the world would you say a thing like that?
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