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    I think if the Bears don't crack the 15th in offense under martz this year, we should let him go. But seeing how stubborn lovie has been in the past, i don't see that happening, at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    I think if the Bears don't crack the 15th in offense under martz this year, we should let him go. But seeing how stubborn lovie has been in the past, i don't see that happening, at all.
    I just hate the idea of learning a new system again...

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    But if it don't work, ya gotta fix it. We tried a similar system in 04, and martz failed twice since stl.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    I think if the Bears don't crack the 15th in offense under martz this year, we should let him go. But seeing how stubborn lovie has been in the past, i don't see that happening, at all.
    Martz needs talent for his system to work. Lovie took over the Defense 2 years ago and failed big time. Once some of our studs got heathy and bring in Peppers our defense worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Burris View Post
    But if it don't work, ya gotta fix it. We tried a similar system in 04, and martz failed twice since stl.

    You can't fix the lions when Matt Millen was running the organization.

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    I don't think Martz has too much power as he was reigned in from passing so much last season. What will be the death kneel of Martz will be (along with a unbalanced attack) is the large qb drops, lack of a shotgun, TE and FB uses. If he goes I think Tice could be the OC esp if that will keep him.
    If we gain a WR in FA then it better be a guy that can pick up the system quickly or is familiar w/it. Don't think he can afford to have a redshirt season.
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    Here's my thoughts.

    We HAVE to have three qb's on the roster. That was proven a few times last year.

    Hannie is the second qb on our roster, and will be for this year. After this year I see them trading him for picks and grabbing another late round qb to grow.

    Basically, this has nothing to do with hannie, or how Martz feels about Hannie, but more about growing qb's under Cutler to farm for draft picks... ala the way GB did under Favre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blinddeafmute View Post
    Here's my thoughts.

    We HAVE to have three qb's on the roster. That was proven a few times last year.

    Hannie is the second qb on our roster, and will be for this year. After this year I see them trading him for picks and grabbing another late round qb to grow.

    Basically, this has nothing to do with hannie, or how Martz feels about Hannie, but more about growing qb's under Cutler to farm for draft picks... ala the way GB did under Favre.
    That's a good point. Imagine if we were able to trade a bench qb for some picks in this last draft. Could have satisfied more needs and potentially save $ in the FA market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blinddeafmute View Post
    Here's my thoughts.

    We HAVE to have three qb's on the roster. That was proven a few times last year.

    Hannie is the second qb on our roster, and will be for this year. After this year I see them trading him for picks and grabbing another late round qb to grow.

    Basically, this has nothing to do with hannie, or how Martz feels about Hannie, but more about growing qb's under Cutler to farm for draft picks... ala the way GB did under Favre.

    I don't think Hanie is worth anything more than a 5th round pick. He could be a Scott Mitchell for all we know. He has never played a full game in the NFL so it is really hard to judge a guy on limited play. I think most of his play was in preseason which means nothing. I would like to see him get a few full games under his belt before making any judgement of the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    I don't think Hanie is worth anything more than a 5th round pick. He could be a Scott Mitchell for all we know. He has never played a full game in the NFL so it is really hard to judge a guy on limited play. I think most of his play was in preseason which means nothing. I would like to see him get a few full games under his belt before making any judgement of the guy.
    I'd be willing to bet that some team would be stupid enough to give up a third for him right now.

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