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Great list, DB. I'd definitely take a look at C Tim Barnes, C Zane Taylor, C Kristofer O'Dowd and C Jake Kirkpatrick.
But you guys forgot C Colin Baxter, Arizona (6'3'' - 311 lbs.). A four-year starter and former heavyweight wrestler with a blue-collar, no-nonsense approach to the game. He's smart, competitive and could find a way to make a living as a positional blocker in the pros. Think about what a could learn from Kreutz...
WR Andre Holmes (Hillsdale College, 6'4'' - 210 lbs.), CB Deunta Williams (North Carolina, 6'2'' - 205 lbs.) and CB Joe Lefeged (Rutgers, 6' - 210 lbs.) would also be a great addition for the Bears.
Next in line: OT/OG Jariel King (6'5'' - 317 lbs.) and OG Zach Hurd (Connecticut, 6'7'' - 316 lbs.).
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MPBears68 
Great list.
Agree that giving a look at Centers like Barnes, Linnenkohl, O'Dowd, Kirkpatrick, and Taylor should be a priority since we didn't get a chance to draft a guy like Wisniewski or Moffitt. That's a sizable collection of guys at only one position who were thought to be late-draft material and all fell through. We might be able to find a sleeper in there who could pay dividends down the road.
Secondly, (and I know that no one is going to be of help right away here) a big developmental WR prospect warrants a look. Terrance Tolliver has the size and decent speed and surprisingly went undrafted, so I would favor starting there. As with the C's, the prime 2nd-tier big wideouts like Hankerson, Little, and Pettis all eluded us by our 3rd round pick. I was hoping Stephen Burton, who's another small-school (West TX A&M) physically impressive potential, would fall out of the draft but he went late-6 I think.
Lastly, its hard not to root for a gutsy guy like Herzlich to get a shot somewhere...I hope he does and continues to regain his athletic abilities. LB is prob a lesser need for the Bears though since it looks like we may have nabbed a real hidden gem with JTT in the 6th.
The OG and CB classes were picked pretty bare in the first half of the draft so I don't see much of interest there.
yep MP, the draft in the third round broke awful for bears( but after broke right in rounds 1 and 2, guess was inevitable..lol)- I was also suprised all the centers fell out of the draft- so brining in 2 a good idea, we shall see. and the "big WR" was why looked for the best of those to put on the list- we have enough of th 5'10=6'0 guys, so if going to use space for a development WR, like the idea of a big guy, and just IMO, becuase of cutler's success with Marshall.. can see the big WR's when choosing between a few teams wanting to come here.,, and linebackers always like to come to chicago becuase of the history.
That is one of the things different about this UDFA class- usually done immediately after draft, and many times sign with the first phone call- but with time to really analyze the teams and "fits", think this UDFA class, will be smarter and more educated about wher they sign.
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little bear Great list, DB. I'd definitely take a look at C Tim Barnes, C Zane Taylor, C Kristofer O'Dowd and C Jake Kirkpatrick.
But you guys forgot C Colin Baxter, Arizona (6'3'' - 311 lbs.). A four-year starter and former heavyweight wrestler with a blue-collar, no-nonsense approach to the game. He's smart, competitive and could find a way to make a living as a positional blocker in the pros. Think about what a could learn from Kreutz...
WR Andre Holmes (Hillsdale College, 6'4'' - 210 lbs.), CB Deunta Williams (North Carolina, 6'2'' - 205 lbs.) and CB Joe Lefeged (Rutgers, 6' - 210 lbs.) would also be a great addition for the Bears.
Next in line: OT/OG Jariel King (6'5'' - 317 lbs.) and OG Zach Hurd (Connecticut, 6'7'' - 316 lbs.).
thanks LB.. and honesty do not know much about baxter, thanks will look into. and deunta one of my levels on the CB , same with king.. deunta's biggest problem is mental lapses, watched a few games he just seemed to drift at times( and prob why went udfa)
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dabears54 figure on a slow saturday, would put together a "wish list" and 8 person list would like to see bears extend camp invites and UDFA contracts to when allowed:
usc center kris o'dowd- some concerns about injury made him fall out of draft, we need a back up for kreutz
miss C tim barnes - again think its a position of need so having 2 center's brought in would be a good idea, suprising UDFA many had a 5th -6th round grade on
S.C. Ot/OG jariel king- a 6'5" 317 lineman that has played both guard and tackle and would be some nic depth in tice size lineman
LSU WR Lawrence toliver- 6'4", ran a 4.52 at the combine, has some off field issues and why went undrafted- but well worth a camp tryout at 6'4"
Pine bluff WR Raymond Webber- a 6'2'' WR, that caught 100+ passes for 1,200+ yards in 2010, but little known, well worth a camp look
UNC CB Kendric burney- a good coverage CB, but lacks top end speed( 4.75 at combine), could be a good depth player and ST'er
BC linebacker Mark herzlich- a feel good story of overcoming Cancer, after missing 2009, came back slow in 2010, but improved at the end if year.. Can play both SLB and MLB..
fla punter Chas Henry- for sox,lol- bring in another camp leg and henry led nation with a 45.1 YPP ..with 68 downed inside the 20... only negative is will need to change his steps from 3 to 2 for the NFL and why went undrafted, imo
Some honorable mentions:
Zane taylor C
David Mims OT
mario harvey- OLB
deandre brown- WR
kendall smith - ILB
matt murphy- OG
Who do posters think the bears should target in the UDFA market?
At least one OC should be a given and in my mind Barnes would probably top the list. Guys like O'Dowd, Taylor, or Kirkpatrick could also fit the bill. I'm guessing that Tice has his eye on one or two of them in particular. I'd love to see us develop another Jay Hilgenberg out of FA.
We always bring WR's to camp but so far we've had little or no success with any of them. Is Daryl Drake that bad of a coach or do we just not pick the right guys? We have to find a taller vet WR in FA this year but another one or two who are the size of that kid Fantuz would be good. We need another guy of size in the development hopper.
I know they'll find a CB to invite since we didn't draft one and the vet FA cupboard is pretty bare but the one guy I really want is Herzlich. He may be the perfect guy to grow into the MLB spot and he get's to study and learn from one of the best. Right now he's about Hilly's size but he may be able to add 10-15lbs without losing his athleticism. I'm not really hoping that an UDFA could ever fill Uralcher's shoes but this guy may well have been a high draft pick if not for his illness. Even if we got nothing more than we got from Hilly we'd have made a good choice signing him.
Somebody just needs to go out and convince him that he stands a chance of becoming one of a long list of pro-bowl LB's if he joins the Bears. Guys like him are a tradition and he's worth a FA shot.
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dabears54 yep MP, the draft in the third round broke awful for bears( but after broke right in rounds 1 and 2, guess was inevitable..lol)- I was also suprised all the centers fell out of the draft- so brining in 2 a good idea, we shall see. and the "big WR" was why looked for the best of those to put on the list- we have enough of th 5'10=6'0 guys, so if going to use space for a development WR, like the idea of a big guy, and just IMO, becuase of cutler's success with Marshall.. can see the big WR's when choosing between a few teams wanting to come here.,, and linebackers always like to come to chicago becuase of the history.
That is one of the things different about this UDFA class- usually done immediately after draft, and many times sign with the first phone call- but with time to really analyze the teams and "fits", think this UDFA class, will be smarter and more educated about wher they sign.
Yeah, you're are so right, DB. The draft broke awful for us in terms of our positional needs between the Paea & Conte picks. So many potential OG, WR, & CB prospects failed to fall to late-3. Guess we can't complain since we were so fortunate beforehand. It's human nature to always find something to whine about though lol. Assuming we sign (as we must) a starting-caliber OG and a Floyd-like WR in regular FA, I see the following as attractive options for UDFAs:
1. A developmental C--fortunately there are quite a few options to bring into camp, hopefully one of them impresses.
2. A developmental big target WR--a few options are available, probably won't work out but worth a look. I guess if we sign a young guy like Sidney Rice that this would be far less of an issue.
3. CB depth--do you agree that this position is the "least deep" one on our defensive roster? Again it prob won't pan out, but I'm assuming that JA is not going to sign a vet CB given the bigger needs on O we have above.
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I think they did what they had to in the first two rounds and did it well but the penalty of finishing too high and picking too late in the round hit us in the third and we didn't have the ammunition to do anything about it. In some of the previous drafts we got compensatory picks that could be used as booty for trade ups but not this year. We had also traded our 4th to assure Paea in the second so between that and having no 7th because of the Unga pick last year our trade up wallet was bare.
I think it all boiled down to a few players at WR or CB that may have been little if any better than what we had or we take a swing at a top ranked guy at safety knowing full well there'd be a ton of criticism surrounding the pick. Personally I would have taken the safer route and looked at the best CB's left on the board and taken one. But I applaud JA's guts on this one. At least some people didn't think it was a foolish pick because they had him as the top FS in the draft. It's a gamble that we either win or lose but it just feels to me like one of the better ones we've taken of late.
I think bringing Ruskell on board and allowing the coaching staff more input into their choices has made a difference over previous years. Like they say you make the score when you draft but it doesn't go on the board until the guy performs. In Conte's case I don't we'll have long to wait to find out whether or not it was a score.
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dabears54 yep MP, the draft in the third round broke awful for bears
I can't agree with this. 3/4 this year was a great big-fast CB area. A lot of guys like House, Chekwa, Allen, Curtis and Jalil Brown went in that area after us. McCarthy and Wright were both solid picks for the future of our LB corps and they were there. Then there was Boling or Brewer who boosts our need for talent on OL who went in the following picks. I wasn't a fan of Durham (though the way he stood in for Green was impressive) and Doss, but they were legit prospects there who filled a need at big WR. So, I won't say the pick was out of the draft falling poorly for us, I just think we legitimately had Conte that high on our board.
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There is a ton of developmental Center talent and I would not mind if we brought in a couple of them and stashed them on the PR or IR.
1. Tim Barnes, played in a pass heady offense.
2. Zane Taylor, 6'2" 315lbs plug.
3. Alex Pelc, as was mentioned at 6'5" 325lbs he has the size that we want.
4. Jake Kirkpatrick, his Senior Bowl Performance really turned me off.
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I say sign all the OL talent you can and see who sticks. The more competition the better.
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The Benjamin I say sign all the OL talent you can and see who sticks. The more competition the better.
And yet you seem to be opposed to doing this at QB because you dinged the draft grade because of our 5th round QB pick.
Talk about convoluted thinking Benji! 
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