Thread: Brian Urlacher: Bears best in NFC

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

Actually, the two you listed are more meaningless because they don't come with a title ;)

Well i'd say for personal accomplishments and being a better player they are more important to have a player fo year or rookie of year, unless you think becuase dilfer has a title, he is a better Qb than a dan marino or dan fouts.. and hope you do not think that

Originally Posted by dabears54

Well i'd say for personal accomplishments and being a better player they are more important to have a player fo year or rookie of year, unless you think becuase dilfer has a title, he is a better Qb than a dan marino or dan fouts.. and hope you do not think that

1. Marino is likely the best QB the NFL ever saw

2. Personal accomplishments are nice, this is true. But if you ask someone which they would rather have of the three, they would all to a man say the Super Bowl MVP.

Originally Posted by dabears54

I don't know.. if given the choice of being let's say Dan marino, and all his accomplishments, but no ring,, or being a crappy Qb like dilfer that lucked into a ring, because of the raven's "D".. I'd rather be Marino over dilfer or a doug williams

That could very well be up for debate. Any player without a ring, who is in the HOF, would say they would trade their HOF ring for a Super Bowl ring. Sure, likely pandering to the home town fans like many players do all the time, but I wonder how many are actually telling the truth. Marino had it all in his career, except that ring. A disappointment that may very well haunt him to this day.

Originally Posted by The Benjamin

That could very well be up for debate. Any player without a ring, who is in the HOF, would say they would trade their HOF ring for a Super Bowl ring. Sure, likely pandering to the home town fans like many players do all the time, but I wonder how many are actually telling the truth. Marino had it all in his career, except that ring. A disappointment that may very well haunt him to this day.

exactly!.. think its more just PC to say "i'd rather have a title".. but think most would love to have had a career as the most feared "D' player like butkus,or the most feared QB like Marino- over a not good career, but got a ring( which didn't really contribute much to) abd close to alwys being benched..And just IMO, its why Dilfer comes off so jealous and killing QB's like culter, who he knows had much more god-given talent then he could ever imagine..To be the BEST at your position for a long time, or all-time is really Special.. and IMO better than being a one time winner of a title, esp if you weren't the large cause of it but alon for the ride.

Originally Posted by dabears54

yeah about as overrated as the rookie of the year and "D" player fo the Year

How many championships did those awards net for Brian?

Originally Posted by Henry Burris

Seriously, 30 years from now, Marino's gonna be remembered, when dilfer leaves ESPN, he's gonna be forgotten. Heck, the ravens gave up fewer points in a season than the Bears did, but they're not remembered as the best defense (could be because we lost one fluke game, not 5).

yep- its why think if being honest most take the Accomplishments, even though its not P.C. to say that- Especially in football you can't control wins or games like in some other Sports, much more out of one player's control- but being the BEST at your poistion is what all players strive for.

Bears’ Lance Briggs says ‘D’ can afford to wait

By SEAN JENSEN sjensen@suntimes.com .hideTime { DISPLAY: none}May 18, 2011 11:18PM


Bears linebacker Lance Briggs loosened himself up Tuesday afternoon, backpedaling, jumping and kicking his legs chest-high.
But he wasn’t alongside Bears teammates at Halas Hall — he was with the Crusaders of Brother Rice High School, conducting a training clinic for Gatorade’s G Series

Pro line.

While in the Chicago area, he planned to support Bears receiver Rashied Davis and former Bears defensive back Jerry Azumah with their charity events, then return to Arizona, where he’d resume workouts with a trainer.

Briggs said he’s glad his offensive teammates are working out together, but he isn’t worried about the defense — not yet, anyway.
‘‘Offensive guys are getting together? Great for them,’’ Briggs said during a break. ‘‘And the stuff that guys around the league are
doing is fine and great for them. But that’s a team-by-team deal.

‘‘That’s something we’ll address [on defense] as we get closer to a decision.”

That confidence is borne of the defense’s continuity, which is why Briggs insisted the Bears bring back many of the free agents, especially at his position.

‘‘We need to seal up guys that helped us get to that championship [game] and guys we’ll need to get to another championship [game],’’ Briggs said. ‘‘We need to make sure that we hold on to all of those guys. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.’’

He was referring to defensive tackle Anthony Adams and linebackers Pisa Tinoisamoa and Nick Roach.

Other defenders such as Brian Iwuh, Rod Wilson, Danieal Manning and Corey Graham are also free agents, but their status won’t be fully clear until a new collective-bargaining agreement is reached.

Briggs has paid attention to the lockout news, but he doesn’t obsess about it.

Asked when he would get nervous about the 2011 season, Briggs said, “All that stuff is out of my control. My feelings don’t matter.’’
Briggs, 30, has been trying his best to use his time off, going on a Caribbean vacation, spending time with family and working on business projects.

‘‘I’m trying to get the future straightened out,” he sad. ‘‘Utilizing the time that we have to do something productive.”
Briggs, who has a $250,000 workout bonus in his contract, suggested all players are adversely affected by the lockout.
‘‘It hurts everyone that you’re not able to play football, especially the young guys who need to learn systems and learn how it’s going to be and what they’re doing,” he said. ‘‘You can’t get a look at these guys and see how they fit until all this is done. So it’s a waiting game.’’

But the defense can afford to wait a little longer, a point Bears quarterback Jay Cutler made in a recent interview.
‘‘Those defenders have been in the system for eight years, nine years,’’ Cutler said. ‘‘What are they gonna do?
‘‘What am I going to tell [Brian Urlacher]? ‘Your drop is a little short. Sorry, buddy.’ ’’

Cutler said the offense had ‘‘a lot of room to improve.’’ The league-wide rankings make that clear; the Bears’ offense finished ranked 30th overall last season in yards, while the defense was ninth.

Still, Briggs said it’ll be important to get quality time with younger players, including rookie defensive tackle Stephen Paea.
‘‘[Paea is] a great pick,’’ Briggs said. ‘‘He’s really built for what we do. Him and the first-rounder [offensive tackle Gabe Carimi] and the safety [Chris Conte] . . . we’ll see how they fit once the season begins and we can get back to football.’’

And when they do, the Bears will defend their NFC North title while trying to humble the rival Green Bay Packers, who went on to win the Super Bowl.

While the Packers are the NFL champions, Briggs echoed Urlacher’s comments that the Bears are the team to beat.
‘‘We stack up well against anybody — it doesn’t matter who they are,’’ Briggs said. ‘‘We got the core, and we have a good number of young guys, too. So that puts us right there with the elite.

‘‘But it’s a proving game. It doesn’t matter if I say we’re the best or [Urlacher] says we’re the best. You have to do it when you get on the field.’’

When that will be, of course, is anyone’s guess.