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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Paea is a true 3t who could also fill in at NT but he's far more a penetrator than a guy who eats up blocks and just bull rushes the pass.

    On the other topic, I don't think that any other team in the NFL is as fortunate to have two guys whose distinctive talents mesh as well as Briggs and Uralcher. Even guys like Pisa and Roach who are good but far from All-Pro material look better next to them. I loved his observations about Briggs tackling skills. I've always searched for a way to describde his game and there it was. Briggs is the most efficient tackler I've watched play since the days of Mike Singletary and I consider that high praise. I am so glad we didn't lose him to FA two years back.

    I also have to agree that Urlacher is the most unique and most skilled LB in the NFL. With his size and speed there are things he can do that very simple no one else can even come close to. There isn't another MLB who plays the pass as well as he does and still remains a force against the run as well. If he runs out the string like he played last year he's a lock for the HOF. Then we'll have 4 former Bears MLB's with that honor; Bill George, Dick Bukus, Mike Singletary and Urlacher. The tradition lives on.
    Good call on urlacher Soul, but you forgot the first Linebacker in the Hall of fame string of almost 5 straight( no team even has 2), George Conner! who was the original Lb "beast" ar 6'3 240, when no one had that size/speed

    At the time George Connor joined the Chicago Bears in 1948, he stood 6-3, weighed 240, had a chest measurement of 53 inches expanded and 48 inches normal and yet his waist measurement was only 37 inches. He was a hard core of solid muscle and, as the noted sports writer Grantland Rice one observed, "the closest thing to a Greek God since Apollo." He could also play football, better, in fact, than almost anyone else against whom he played. He starred on both offense and defense. He dominated the all-American ranks in college and the all-pro selections as a Bear.

    Even today, 20 years after his retirement, his contributions on the football field have not been forgotten. Proof of this comes from his 1975 election to membership in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    His sport's highest honor was officially bestowed on August 2, 1975 when George joined Roosevelt Brown, Dante Lavelli and Lenny Moore in impressive induction ceremonies on the front steps of the Canton grid shrine.

    During his eight years in Chicago, Connor gained the rare distinction of earning all-NFL honors at three different positions-offensive tackle, defensive tackle, and linebacker. Although George is remembered as one of the finest of the post-World War II tackles, it was as a linebacker that he enjoyed his greatest stardom in pro football. He was one of the first to become a regular linebacker and he still ranks as one of the very best!

    Necessity is the mother of invention, so the saying goes, and it was sheer necessity that caused George to become a linebacker in the first place.

    Back in 1949, the Philadelphia Eagles were tearing up the NFL. The week before the Bears were to play the high-flying Eagles, Head Coach George Halas and his assistant, Hunk Anderson, were devising some desperate measures to slow the Philadelphia offense.

    Of particular concern was an end sweep that saw fullback Joe Muha and the two guards lead bulldozing Steve Van Buren around the end. Van Buren was a terror even without interference but with such an effective convoy out in front, he was virtually unstoppable.

    Finally Anderson had a thought: "Why don't we put in a big man like Connor back as linebacker? They won't be able to run over him like they do the lighter guys. Besides he's one of our most aggressive guys and that's the best kind to play linebacker."

    The experiment worked. Connor played a major role in blunting the Philadelphia attack. The Bears defeated the Eagles, 38-21, for the only loss Philadelphia suffered in an otherwise perfect season.

    From that moment on, George Connor was a linebacker. From that moment on, the prototype for the ideal NFL linebacker had been established-he should be big, fast, and mobile, like George Connor!

    But all of this did not make George Connor a one-way specialist. He continued to play offensive tackle and, in both 1951 and 1952, he earned all-NFL honors on both the offensive and defensive units, a distinction which Connor today recalls as his biggest thrill in pro football.

    George was always one of the smartest men on the field whenever and wherever he played. He seemingly knew instinctively about keys-the tips that the movement of certain offensive players will provide to the alert defender to tell a split-second ahead of time the way a play is going-long before keys became the vogue.

    "If you try to follow the ball," Connor explained," any slick quarterback can fool you. But if you concentrate on watching a few key offensive players, they'll lead you right to the play."

    As with any Hall of Famer, there are many stories of Connor's gridiron heroics. Perhaps the most dramatic one stems from his exceptional performance at the 1952 Pro Bowl game.

    On a series early in the fourth quarter, Connor, playing left linebacker, threw Dub Jones for a loss on first down. George moved to the right side on second down and stopped Eddie Price on an end run. On third down, he charged the passer, Otto Graham, and threw him for a ten-yard loss. On fourth down, Graham passed to Lavelli but Connor moved back into the secondary to bat the ball down. For the day, Connor had been a major factor in limiting the American stars to 15 yards while the National team was winning, 30-13.

    Had it not been for the determination and devotion of his mother and father, George Connor might not have survived infancy. George was born in Chicago on January 21, 1925, a premature baby weighing only three pounds. While doctors had no hope for his survival, his parents would not give up. After a year of constant vigil during which boiled cabbage juice was the major item in George's diet, his survival was finally assured.

    As a youngster, George tended to be on the small side. When he first joined the De Lasalle High School team as a freshman, he weighed only 135 pounds and stood only 5-4. Three years later, however, he had blossomed into a strapping 6-1 _, 215-pounder.

    Family tradition dictated that George should attend Holy Cross so, in the fall of 1943, George reported to the Crusaders as a freshman tackle. He won a starting job despite his coach's determination not to use first-year men on varsity. By year's end, George had earned all-America acclaim on several selections.

    After a successful, but not as spectacular sophomore year at Holly Cross, the Navy intervened and sent George off to study in its college training program at Notre Dame. Navy rules prohibited Connor from playing varsity football with the Irish but, when he completed his 35 months of duty in 1946, George was determined that he wanted to play out his college days in South Bend.

    With the Irish, Connor's career mushroomed. He won all-America honors in both 1946 and 1947 and he was also named the first winner of the Outland Award which goes annually to the Nation's finest college lineman.

    The Boston Yanks selected George No. 1 in the 1948 draft but Connor steadfastly insisted that he would play only in Chicago. So the Yanks traded his negotiation rights to the Bears for a well-regarded tackle from Temple, Mike Jarmoluk.

    Connor eventually chose signing with the Bears over the Cleveland Browns of the rival All-America Football Conference and the size of the contract the Bears offered him probably made his choice an easy one.

    Halas offered Connor a three-year, no-cut, no-trade contract at $13,000 annually, a sum unheard of for lineman in the late 1940's. George signed the same day that his Notre Dame teammate, quarterback Johnny Lujack, also cast his lot with the Bears.

    Chicago was loaded with some of the great names of all time-Sid Luckman, George McAfee and Bulldog Turner among the 1948 Bears all are now Hall of Famers-and only four rookies made the squad. Lujack, Connor, Bobby Layne and J.R. Boone were successful new candidates.

    Connor played the game hard, clean and with exceptional effectiveness and he might have continued to star for years had not a knee injury cut him down in the 1954 pre-season. George played only half-time in 1954 and returned for possibly his finest season in 1955.

    But before the 1956 season got underway, he decided to call it quits.

    "After a few days in camp, I realized I couldn't do the job anymore," Connor explained. "I was determined that I would never be content to just hang on. I wanted to leave while the cheers were still ringing."

    In reluctantly accepting George's decision, Halas, the Bears' head man, may have summed it up best: "We set high standards for Connor as a player and he exceeded them. He parlayed leadership and intelligence and fine ability into one of the great careers of our time!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Paea is a true 3t who could also fill in at NT but he's far more a penetrator than a guy who eats up blocks and just bull rushes the pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Good call on urlacher Soul, but you forgot the first Linebacker in the Hall of fame string of almost 5 straight( no team even has 2), George Conner! who was the original Lb "beast" ar 6'3 240, when no one had that size/speed

    Oops, yeah I did forget about him. Make that 5 HOF MLB. Pretty much one from each era: 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's-90's, 00's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Oops, yeah I did forget about him. Make that 5 HOF MLB. Pretty much one from each era: 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's-90's, 00's.
    Yep BY FAR, the most remarkable run of HOF players in the league on any team, heck 10 teams do not evne have that many HOF's in their entire existance at all positions..I can't even think of a team with 3 in a close row.. san fran had montana and young, dallas aikmen and staubach..giants had sam huff , andy robustelli and LT.. and that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobeOfFrogs View Post
    If you say so. LOL.
    Well since you're such an expert why don't you just read his scouting reports then. The seem to agree more with my projections for him than with yours. I don't deny that he could play NT, he has the strength for it, but I don't think that's were you'll see him playing most of the time. His playing weight is around 300lbs and most NT's are at least 315-320lbs and many go 330lbs or more. Paea is most definitely a penetrator, not a space eater.


    STEPHEN PAEA DT, Oregon St.
    • 2011 GRADE: 6.8 X HT: 6-1 WT: 311
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    An explosive, thickly built defensive tackle who displays an impressive first step off the snap and consistently is one of the first defensive linemen moving. Does a great job keeping his base down, back flat and creating leverage for himself into contact. Is able to generate an impressive jolt at the point of attack in both the run and pass game, keeping opposing linemen from getting onto his frame initially off the snap. Demonstrates the first step to cross the face of opposing defenders and shoot his way into the backfield, but also displays good suddenness and body control as a pass rusher inside, cleanly changing directions and using a compact club move — which he added to his arsenal from a year ago — to free himself from blocks inside. However, needs to do a better job extending his arms more consistently into contact off the snap and lacks much of an idea how to counter if his initial rush is stalled.

    Possesses impressive anchor strength for his size. However, isn't a guy who will sit into his stance and control blocks in the run game. But his combination burst and lower body strength make him really tough to move off the football. Even vs. the double he has the ability to hold his ground inside. Exhibits good range when asked to close and make plays off his frame, but needs to do a better job using his length to shed blocks. Isn't real long-armed and will struggle to keep himself clean and stack and shed blocks inside. Seems to get high trying to fight his way off blocks and will lose his balance and body control when working his way toward the runs off his frame.

    Impression: He's explosive, powerful and can consistently overpower blockers at the point of attack. However, because of his lack of length and ability to cleanly shed blocks in the run game, looks limited to more of a one-gap scheme in the NFL. But has the ability to start and play at a high level early in his NFL career.


    Stephen Paea Scouting Report


    Position:DT School & Year/Status:Oregon St. - DraftedJersey Number:#54Height & Weight:6'1 - 311 lbs.Ranked #30 on our Top 100 Prospects Board Drafted 2.21 in 2011 by CHI


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    person Stephen Paea, DT, Oregon St.

    Scouts started looking at Stephen Paea last year after he had his second consecutive productive season with Oregon State after spending one year at the junior college level. However, Paea only played one year of football in high school and still needed to learn some things, so returning for his senior season was certainly a good thing for multiple reasons. The Beavers usually do not ask their defensive tackles to get sacks, but Paea tallied 5.0 during his first season with the program. He added 41 tackles and 11.0 tackles-for-loss. The following year Paea totaled 43 tackles, 8.5 tackles-for-loss and 3.0 sacks.
    So far during the 2010 campaign, Paea is not putting up quite as solid numbers, but he does get constantly double teamed. Yet even double teaming Paea usually does not work. He will get consistent pressure on most quarterbacks by collapsing the pocket and forcing the action. Paea may not end up with a tackle, but few defensive tackles are as disruptive as he has been this season. Scouts like Paea's quickness and athleticism. He has some good moves to beat opposing linemen and plays surprisingly well from a technical stand point considering his lack of football experience. What may keep Paea out of the first round is his size. Paea is 6-1 and does not have the longest arms around and that occasionally makes it difficult to shed blocks. On many draft boards Paea is the top defensive tackle and that will make him a first round selection if he can hold onto that spot.

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    guess no one has an interest in diagrams or metrics and showing some different aspects of the game. Thread's of strategy, tactics, and/or gamesmanship just seem here to not get much response at all. Oh well
    This is where his time spent playing safety at New Mexico has really paid off at the pro level.
    What should you call any : Fumble , Hold , Interception , Three and out , or Sack ?

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    Izzy will be the other starter at DE, with wooton probably getting alot more time in rotation in 2011 jackie, and in 2011 expect Wright and harris the main safeties, with conte getting some time in sub packages and esp dime.. but unless an injury can see conte more for 2012 starting , with harris's contract up after this year
    I can't see them not resigning Chris Harris. The guy was a second team All-Pro this last season, and as such, deserves to remain with the Bears for as long as he is productive. I would see Conte replacing Manning before I would Harris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Horse-shoe View Post
    This is where his time spent playing safety at New Mexico has really paid off at the pro level.
    yeah he played the "rover' poistion at new mexico, which is more like a cover-2 MLB than a safety. his job be it a 5-2 or 4-3 alignment is to come down and cover the run and passes in the flat.. which is what urlacher played at new mexico, so he really wasn't a safet in the traditional sense, paterno used to call it the "woflman" position in the 1970's at penn state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagan81 View Post
    I can't see them not resigning Chris Harris. The guy was a second team All-Pro this last season, and as such, deserves to remain with the Bears for as long as he is productive. I would see Conte replacing Manning before I would Harris.
    Well harris contract is up after this year and think , they want to get younger with Wright/conte.. which is why think harris will not be resigned. If they do that is fine- but not sure he would want to be a bench plyer and you need wright on field. Manning will depend on the CBA.. think "IF" have a CBA and F/A, some team becuase of his return abilities will offer him a deal bears will not match- but if goes back to RFA status then we keep him

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    Urlacher is the BEST safety ever to play MLB!!! Thank God he's on our side and we didnt use him at safety!

    I'm looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop a 5 step to pass only to see Paea & company coming...

    better throw to the middle only to see Urlacher and Briggs grinning like hungry BEARS...

    better go deep but theres that Peanut & co....what to do...WHAT TO DO...SACKED by Peppers.

    The Tampa-2 could not exist without Urlacher and Briggs...the other LB's dont have that talent.

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