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    I have to go with Garrett Wolfe.

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    I'll go with their breakdown as to; best one play, best one game, best season, and best career. I think those divisions were accurate.

    Comparing the two will always be difficult because of the difference in styles. I think Sayers was the best pure running back of the two and quite possibly the best to ever play the game. I've never seen another open field runner playing RB who even comes close. But there's another Bears player who does come close to his open field elusiveness and that's Devin Hester. Both have the unique ability to make a cut without breaking stride or slowing even one iota. Both have the ability to take it to the house anytime they touch the ball.

    Walter was by far the more accomplished football player and like Sayers the best to ever play the game when taken from that perspective. Walter was the guy you wanted with the ball when you needed a crucial 3rd down or a leap into the endzone for a game winning td. You could park the entire offense on his back and he would carry the team and so many times that's just what he did. Stats aside, no one will ever equal what he did in his career playing with the Olines and QB's he had to contend with. No player ever showed more class either.

    I think Jeff brought up a good point when he brought Willie Galimore into the mix as well. FB Rick Casares had better stats but Willie was a tremendous HB in the mold of Gale Sayers and may have gone on to greatness had he not been killed in an auto wreck. Neal Anderson ranks #1 on my all time under appreciated players rankings. Succeeding Walter was a tough act to follow but he did it very well and to me ranks near the top of that second tier group of guys.

    Altogether a nice article and a good topic for discussion during this no football time. You know, Matt Forte has a chance to get into that top tier if he stays healthy and can remain that all around go to back he's been so far in his career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    Yeah the knee injury makes any comparision tough and a guess, and also because sayers smaller, most times evn w/o injury the career lasts less nd not effective as get older and slower..the "scat backs" top career usually much shorter than the solid brusier rb's ala a payton, brown,bettis etc etc

    who would be you #3-#5 Rb's riczaja?
    when you have greats like that; I don't know that there is a three-five. Hell I was to young to remember Sayers, just got to see some hightlights. Never have seen enough of the old guys. In my lifetime it'd have to be Neal, TJ and Forte. For a team that has had greats at the position we have struggled recently with it. Forte should end up the next great one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riczaj01 View Post
    when you have greats like that; I don't know that there is a three-five. Hell I was to young to remember Sayers, just got to see some hightlights. Never have seen enough of the old guys. In my lifetime it'd have to be Neal, TJ and Forte. For a team that has had greats at the position we have struggled recently with it. Forte should end up the next great one.
    yeah forte this year moves ahead of TJ and very close to Neal with another good year. His consistancy and pass catching abilities are what are separating him quickly from the others. Despite the Weak oline, no matter how you split it, averaging just under 1,600 yards a season( 1,577 to be exact), is extremely good and with a better line can see him closing in on 2,000 total yards in 2011

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    Hard to say..I watched Sayers growing up as a kid and as others have mentioned his knee injury cut his career short....sweetness was good in his own right too plus he played on the 85 SB Championship team.....I call it a toss up....I will say that both were great for the years that they played.


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    Walter Payton and Gale Sayers were two totally different runners. The best that I can describe Gale Sayers as being like a more modern runner would have to be Barry Sanders. Sanders, like Sayers, was a great open field runner who could juke some secondary player's jock strap loose and then be off to the races. Sayers did that too. Both players played with some shitty offensive lines in their day and were essentially the offense for their respective teams.

    Payton was more of a power runner. I don't know if you could compare him with O.J. Simpson because I never saw Simpson play much, but Payton literally carried the Bears on his back for the time he played for them. He ran over players or ran around them; it was his choice, really. Though Sayers averaged 5.0 ypc to Payton's 4.4 ypc of their careers, Walter Payton was more consistent in his performances as a clutch player and only missed one game in his entire career, while Sayers only played what amounted to five full seasons in the league. In that case, I think you have to give the edge to Walter Payton, who did it all and did for a longer period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoBears View Post
    Hard to say..I watched Sayers growing up as a kid and as others have mentioned his knee injury cut his career short....sweetness was good in his own right too plus he played on the 85 SB Championship team.....I call it a toss up....I will say that both were great for the years that they played.
    with the injury, can't call it a toss up, imo.. also that sayers didn't block as well s payton or catch the ball out of the backfield as well, aslo puts him below Payton- sayers was the more electrifying runner in prime, but walter the better football player in his prime

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    I think Forte will end up in the top 5 when his career is all said and done. Easily the most talented RB we've had in 20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    I have to go with Garrett Wolfe.
    He's going to need those "great" elusive moves in prison.

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