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    Earl bennet lead league in least drops

    Nice to see it put in numbers..and nice to see no bears on the 'top drop pecertange",but some of those names might suprise people like steve smith. santonio holmes, desean jackson jordy nelson the biggest "butterfingers" in league last year
    Drop Percentage

    May 23rd, 2011 | Author: Khaled Elsayed

    We’ve recently been running a series of articles, breaking down aspects of player performance, and next up we’re looking at wide receivers. Following on from an article we did last year, it seemed a good place to start would be in breaking down the drop issues wide receivers have.Now the drop stat in itself is an interesting one. A glance can suggest which receivers have the more questionable hands in the league, but it’s not exactly fair to class all guys with 12 drops, for example, together. After all, one could have 24 receptions, and the other 124.
    So in one of our simpler metric type articles, we’re bringing you our Drop Percentage for all receivers who had at least 50 catchable balls thrown their way (catchable balls determined by just adding together the number of receptions and drops).

    Dependable in 2010
    It’s not shocking to see that up near the top, we have a couple of guys who do most of their damage in catching shorter, underneath routes. Still, you have to give credit to Jordan Shipley and Earl Bennett for holding onto everything thrown their way. That’s the kind of dependency that should make life a lot easier for a potential rookie starter at quarterback in Cincinnati, and you would think it might make Jay Cutler seem a little less erratic.

    When discussing the top receivers in a list like this, you’re never far from mentioning Larry Fitzgerald. Despite dealing with some terrible quarterback play that wasn’t just inaccurate, but would lead you into harms way often, Fitzgerald did more than you’d expect most mortals to do by dropping only three of the 90 catchable balls thrown his way. This was good enough for fourth, behind another guy who always finishes highly on this list, Kevin Walter.

    Indeed, with their two best receivers in the top fifteen, you can’t argue the Texans aren’t helping out Matt Schaub in this regard. Walter has become one of the league’s most reliable targets, while Andre Johnson eliminated some of the drops that had always been a part of his game. Somehow Johnson managed to improve this season, and he did so on an injured ankle.

    Elsewhere in the Top 10, you have a couple more guys who play mainly in the slot (Mike Thomas and Eddie Royal), and perhaps more surprisingly, one of the leagues’ best deep threats in 2010, Brandon Lloyd. The catches tend to be a bit harder the further downfield you go, but Lloyd displayed a previously unseen consistency to make plays on balls that you didn’t think he had any right to.

    Just outside the top ten is a name that will surprise a few, Braylon Edwards. The New York Jet developed a reputation for drops after a 2008 that saw his star fall in Cleveland. He didn’t help himself with the odd terrible (but highly publicized) drop in 2009 and even now the label of a guy with bad hands sticks (every drop of his receives more press time than other top guys). Remarkable then that he only dropped four balls all year, a better rate than either of the other Jets to make this list. The ever excellent Santonio Holmes dropped eight balls and finished in 42nd, while the normally reliable Jerricho Cotchery put 10 on the ground for the third worst number in the league. Edwards’ name will come up later, making his improvement in New York all the more stark.


    Wide Receivers, Top 15 Drop Percentage, 2010

    Rank Player Team Receptions Drops Catchable Drop %

    1 Jordan Shipley CIN 52 0 52 0.00%
    2Earl Bennett CHI 50 0 50 0.00%
    3 Kevin Walter HST 51 1 52 1.92%
    4 Larry fitzgerlad ARIZ 90 3 92 3.23%
    5Eddie RoyalDEN592613.28%
    6Lance MooreNO703734.11%
    7Mario ManninghamNYG603634.76%
    8Brandon LloydDEN774814.94%
    9BoldinBLT704745.41%
    10tMike ThomasJAX664705.71%
    10tDeion BranchNE664705.71%
    12tBraylon EdwardsNYJ624666.06%
    MasonBLT624666.06%
    14Austin CollieIND584626.45%
    15Andre JohnsonHST866926.52%

    Things weren’t all good, and now we’re getting into dropping some criticism on players. While he may be as scary a deep threat as there is in the league, a one-dimensional player like DeSean Jackson never really scores that highly in our grading. You can attribute some of that to his league-leading 19.67% of drops on catchable balls – this Eagle is your vintage boom or bust receiver.

    It’s more of a surprise to see Steve Smith just behind him, with injury and poor quarterback play seemingly having a huge impact on Smith’s ability to play to the level we expect from him. Given his stellar performance in recent years, you wouldn’t know how much of this was Smith being bogged down by the problems in Carolina, but it’s something for potential trade partners to consider.

    Other noteworthy names near the bottom include Mike Williams of Tampa Bay. The rookie impressed many so much that his peers voted him into their top 100 players of 2011, though it does come as a surprise. He did show a tremendous ability to make plays after the catch, but with 11 drops you start to realize he’s got a way to go before he’s really earned a spot as one of the top receivers.

    You could levy the same charge against Steve Johnson of Buffalo, who was capable of looking the real deal one game, and then dropping five passes the next. Consistency and concentration are key attributes of guys who finish highly in these rankings, and it would be fair to say both men could do with working on those attributes to take their already impressive games to the next level.


    Wide Receivers, Bottom 15 Drop Percentage, 2010

    RankPlayerTeamReceptionsDropsCatchableDrop %
    1SmithNYG4865411.11%4
    2Santonio HolmesNYJ6186911.59%4
    3Jacoby JonesHST5175812.07%4
    4Michael CrabtreeSF5586312.70%4
    5Wes WelkerNE931410713.08%4
    6Brandon MarshallMIA86139913.13%4
    7Steve JohnsonBUF82139513.68%4
    8Miles AustinDAL69118013.75%4
    9Jordy NelsonGB66117714.29%
    50Steve BreastonARZ4785514.55%
    51Mike A. WilliamsTB64117514.67%
    52Pierre GarconIND72138515.29%
    53Jerricho CotcheryNYJ53106315.87%
    54Steve L. SmithCAR46105617.86%
    55DeSean JacksonPHI49126119.67%

    Looking Deeper
    To get a bit further into it, I’ve pulled all the data from the last three years to see who has that consistency over a longer period. The qualifying amount of catchable balls thrown goes up to 120, and the results get more interesting.

    Up front, you’ve got two of the perennial favorites in this list with the aforementioned Walter and Fitzgerald showing 2010 was no fluke. Also in the top five, Vincent Jackson shows what Philip Rivers missed last year. His ability to go down the field and make tricky catches, is something that makes him one of the most in-demand receivers, even with a franchise tag on him.

    Some of the other names that should be of interest are Austin Collie up in eighth, while Pierre Garcon finished sixth from bottom. They don’t play identical roles in the Colts offense, but you can put some of Peyton Manning’s 2010 struggles on the absence of Austin Collie (as well as Dallas Clark) and extra reliance on the less dependable Garcon.


    Wide Receivers, Top 10 Drop Percentage, 2008-2010

    RankPlayerTeamReceptionsDropsCatchableDrop %
    WalterHST16451692.96%
    2Larry FitzgeraldARZ325113363.27%
    3Eddie RoyalDEN18791964.59%
    4Vincent JacksonSD15081585.06%
    5Lance MooreNO14981575.10%
    6Jason AvantPHI14481525.26%
    7Anquan BoldinBLT258152735.49%
    8Austin CollieIND13581435.59%
    9Michael JenkinsATL152101626.17%
    10Derrick MasonBLT232162486.45%

    Meanwhile down at the bottom you’ve got some pretty big names competing for title of “worst hands” over the past three years. It tells you about the improvements of Edwards that even though he finished just outside the Top 10 in 2010, he finished at the bottom of the three-year rankings (by and large due to those incredible 19 drops in 2008).


    Wide Receivers, Bottom 10 Drop Percentage, 2008-2010

    RankPlayerTeamReceptionsDropsCatchableDrop %
    36Santana MossWAS2422927110.70%
    37Brandon MarshallMIA2913732811.28%
    38Nate WashingtonTEN1361815411.69%
    39Marques ColstonNO2203025012.00%
    40Pierre GarconIND1442016412.20%
    JacksonPHI1872621312.21%
    42Randy MossMIN1852621112.32%
    43Terrell OwensCIN1962822412.50%
    44Dwayne BoweKC2053323813.87%
    45Braylon EdwardsNYJ1682919714.72%

    So there you have it. The numbers show some steadily good (like Walter and Fitzgerald), some steadily not-so (like Jackson), and even some capable of a huge turnaround (like Edwards). While none of it makes Walter flatly more valuable than the deep threat that is Jackson, maybe a bit more credit is due for the Texan and his role in their offense. Either way, more grist for the mill.
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    Well this kind of Info would have been nice to know because the bears should have thrown the ball to him instead ending the season on a 2 yard loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4th and 26 View Post
    Well this kind of Info would have been nice to know because the bears should have thrown the ball to him instead ending the season on a 2 yard loss.
    actually ended on an INT to knox ...not a 2 yard loss on a bennett end around

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    Nice to have some data on Bennett but the perception of it was there. I thought Braylon Edwards improvement was important info to know as well. He fits into that category of a bigger WR but most of us have shown little interest in him because of his drops. If that's behind him now he may be another target to add to the FA wish list if only we could wish FA into reality. He was the guy that we really wanted in 2005 when we took Benson because Cleveland nabbed Edwards right in front of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Nice to have some data on Bennett but the perception of it was there. I thought Braylon Edwards improvement was important info to know as well. He fits into that category of a bigger WR but most of us have shown little interest in him because of his drops. If that's behind him now he may be another target to add to the FA wish list if only we could wish FA into reality. He was the guy that we really wanted in 2005 when we took Benson because Cleveland nabbed Edwards right in front of us.
    Edwards scares me Soul... he is the WORST WR the last 3 years(14.72% drops), so does his lower 2010(6.66%) just a "fluke", or has he changed? I'm not sure, as he did have some big drops in 2010 still... So hard to say "behind him" based on 1 year

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    Edwards scares me Soul... he is the WORST WR the last 3 years(14.72% drops), so does his lower 2010(6.66%) just a "fluke", or has he changed? I'm not sure, as he did have some big drops in 2010 still... So hard to say "behind him" based on 1 year
    Maybe it's a fluke or maybe he's maturing as a WR. Only the pro scouts would know for sure if anyone would. With Malcom Floyd under a high tender my first pick is gone unless they go with 4 or 5 years to FA. At least Edwards is a sure FA and fits the other requirements. I think I'd rather go that direction than Ocho Cinco, T.O., or Moss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Maybe it's a fluke or maybe he's maturing as a WR. Only the pro scouts would know for sure if anyone would. With Malcom Floyd under a high tender my first pick is gone unless they go with 4 or 5 years to FA. At least Edwards is a sure FA and fits the other requirements. I think I'd rather go that direction than Ocho Cinco, T.O., or Moss.
    Yeah, "IF" it was between edwards and those 3 agree, go with edwards, but let's hope doesnt come to this- maybe its still the David terrell stench and actually Michigan WR's on the whole that has me so scared of him... and because he will want a long term deal, that if reverts, we would be screwed fo 3 years at least, let's hope it doesn't come to that

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    Yeah, "IF" it was between edwards and those 3 agree, go with edwards, but let's hope doesnt come to this- maybe its still the David terrell stench and actually Michigan WR's on the whole that has me so scared of him... and because he will want a long term deal, that if reverts, we would be screwed fo 3 years at least, let's hope it doesn't come to that
    Hahaha, "Braylon Terrell", whoa that gives me the shivers but you have to admit that Edwards has been far more productive than Terrell. Come to think of it Devin Aromashodu was probably more effective than Terrell too, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman View Post
    Hahaha, "Braylon Terrell", whoa that gives me the shivers but you have to admit that Edwards has been far more productive than Terrell. Come to think of it Devin Aromashodu was probably more effective than Terrell too, LOL.
    oh no doubt,but be hard to be less productive than terrell though : ) not a real high bar there..

    edwards had ONE career year in 2007( contract year)...and even in 2010( next contract year played decent but not great). hope i'm wrong abou this- but he just seems your typical $$$$ player, and when gets his benjamins the play fails( 2005 and 2006) and 2008 and 2009)

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=8418

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    Quote Originally Posted by dabears54 View Post
    oh no doubt,but be hard to be less productive than terrell though : ) not a real high bar there..

    edwards had ONE career year in 2007( contract year)...and even in 2010( next contract year played decent but not great). hope i'm wrong abou this- but he just seems your typical $$$$ player, and when gets his benjamins the play fails( 2005 and 2006) and 2008 and 2009)

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=8418
    He didn't have the greatest situation in Cleveland and then he went to straight years without playing a whole season so that would affect his stats. What I notice is that in the years when he's played in all 16 games he's done fairly well. Not great but decent. He's yet to justify the spot he was chosen at but if he's matured and can run precise enough routes with Cutler throwing to him he may be ok. Hell, if we can get 900-1000 yards and a half dozen scores from him he'd be worth a shot.
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